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No one owes anyone housing. Thanks to section 8, food stamps, free phones, fake disabilities...etc, my taxes are through the roof. I'm tired of paying for others laziness. If you want a place to live you work 3 jobs if you have to.
BTW...in my area (NYC), section 8 has become a way of life for many. It's no longer temporary help until one gets on their feet again. It is pasted down from generation to generation.
BTW...my rental rate would be much lower if I didn't have to pay for others who live of the corrupt system. Blame the politicians...not the landlords.
No one owes anyone housing. Thanks to section 8, food stamps, free phones, fake disabilities...etc, my taxes are through the roof. I'm tired of paying for others laziness. If you want a place to live you work 3 jobs if you have to.
BTW...in my area (NYC), section 8 has become a way of life for many. It's no longer temporary help until one gets on their feet again. It is pasted down from generation to generation.
BTW...my rental rate would be much lower if I didn't have to pay for others who live of the corrupt system. Blame the politicians...not the landlords.
Yes, the current system is corrupt. Government IS the problem. It's just that the vast majority of government housing assistance goes to homeowners and not to renters.
Yes, the current system is corrupt. Government IS the problem. It's just that the vast majority of government housing assistance goes to homeowners and not to renters.
What a load of bull.
I've still got that phone waiting for you so you can take your pictures and sell your stuff. Guess you would rather be dependent on others for the rest of your life which kind of proves the point made a couple posts up.
Yes, the current system is corrupt. Government IS the problem. It's just that the vast majority of government housing assistance goes to homeowners and not to renters.
Actually, you've got that backwards.
Let's say that I am willing to rent to Section 8 tenants (which I absolutely will not, under any circumstances do).
The rent I charge for a house is $1,000 per month.
If you're not a Section 8 tenant, the entire $1,000 per month comes out of your pocket.
If you are a Section 8 tenant, $800 per month comes from the government (taxpayers) and only $200 per month comes out of your pocket.
Either way I get $1,000 per month.
Who is benefiting from Section 8? The tenant or the landlord?
Let's say that I am willing to rent to Section 8 tenants (which I absolutely will not, under any circumstances do).
The rent I charge for a house is $1,000 per month.
If you're not a Section 8 tenant, the entire $1,000 per month comes out of your pocket.
If you are a Section 8 tenant, $800 per month comes from the government (taxpayers) and only $200 per month comes out of your pocket.
Either way I get $1,000 per month.
Who is benefiting from Section 8? The tenant or the landlord?
Explained that way:
1.) landlord gets same either way
2.) tenant gets $1000 apartment for $800 with Section 8.
Q.E.D. Tenant benefits from Section 8, there are renter benefits available.
I've still got that phone waiting for you so you can take your pictures and sell your stuff. Guess you would rather be dependent on others for the rest of your life which kind of proves the point made a couple posts up.
How is it bull? The aggregate total value of homeowners' mortgage interest deduction, property tax deduction, and capital gain exclusion - each of which is uncapped - exceed aggregate rental assistance such as Section 8, which must be appropriated by Congress annually. That is why there is never any 'waiting list' for homeowner tax breaks, but 10-year waiting lists for Section 8, and why three-fourths of low-income renters receive no housing assistance.
That's not even counting the indirect redistribution driven by protectionist zoning codes which restrict the local supply of housing, to the benefit of homeowners and the detriment of renters.
p.s. developing news, I might be moving in with a friend who is also an eBay seller, if that happens I will have excellent internet and scanner access, and we are going to work on a joint eBay selling project. Oh, and I'll be able to ditch the storage unit and enjoy free storage. The complicating factor is that there is a woman involved who might or might not be moving out so nobody knows yet what's going to happen.
Let's say that I am willing to rent to Section 8 tenants (which I absolutely will not, under any circumstances do).
The rent I charge for a house is $1,000 per month.
If you're not a Section 8 tenant, the entire $1,000 per month comes out of your pocket.
If you are a Section 8 tenant, $800 per month comes from the government (taxpayers) and only $200 per month comes out of your pocket.
Either way I get $1,000 per month.
Who is benefiting from Section 8? The tenant or the landlord?
Usually, BOTH landlord and recipient/tenant benefit from Section 8, unless you wind up with a bum tenant, which is a major hazard of Section 8. Tenants who do not have a Section 8 voucher are probably harmed by rents higher than they might be in the absence of Section 8.
What Section 8 has traditionally done is, allow landlords of sub-prime properties (e.g. bad neighborhood or perhaps old and functionally obsolete) charge higher rents than unsubsidized renters would be willing to pay. e.g. if HUD will subsidize rents up to $1,000, a slumlord in a $600/mo neighborhood might be able to charge $800 (below the $1,000 area maximum) to a Section 8 tenant (who is paying less than $600/mo, and therefore doesn't care how much the rent is, as long as his voucher is honored). Supposedly, HUD is trying to fix this issue so that they don't subsidize $800/mo rent for a $600/mo property, but I don't know how that is working out.
Well I don't know ..... I had one landlord who seemed to think her upcoming vacation should be my problem, as she asked for the rent early so she could vacation worry-free.
She was wrong. Her vacation was not your problem. Did she offer you a discount if you paid it early? That would be the only legitimate way to handle it, if she really did need it early.
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Yes, the current system is corrupt. Government IS the problem. It's just that the vast majority of government housing assistance goes to homeowners and not to renters.
Tax credits are not housing assistance. Not making you pay something is not the same as handing you money.
And, as has often been pointed out to you.... There are programs all over this nation to help the low income purchase their first home but you are going to have to move from Portland to a more affordable place. There are a number of states where two, sometimes even one, minimum wage earners can buy a small condo or a tiny house. My home state of Kentucky is one of them. My cousin bought a little home for herself and two kids in a little town outside of Lexington, Kentucky making only $2 an hour above minimum wage which she got after working a couple of years at Wendy's. MOVE.
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