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I just really feel for those tenants who will have to move... This is Silicon Valley, the county where the Apple campus is, and Google. Housing is so expensive here now because of the demand, I can't imagine anyone who qualifies for Section 8 being able to afford to pay the difference even between a 1 and 2 bedroom apartment.
Some people are irrational - they live in poverty in Silicon Valley instead of moving a hundred miles away where rent is much lower.
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This also explains why the county housing authority had to make this change - it's just too expensive to subsidize rents in this market.
Just crazy. And moving is so expensive. There must be some really scared, stressed out people out there tonight, in my county, who got this letter.
The county housing authority should offer bus tickets and 2 months of all-expenses-paid in a motel for those willing to leave Silicon Valley permanently.
Its so judgemental of people to assume all section8 people are bad and trashy.
Being judgemental is a good thing.
Everyone in the business world must make dozens of judgements every day. Having good judgment is one of the things that helps a businesswoman offer products and services that her customers wish to purchase, thereby allowing her to meet her payroll & keep employees employed.
Good judgment is one of the skills that helps people stay in a good relationship or leave a bad one -- or not enter into a bad one in the first place.
Good judgment is one of the skills that helps a woman decide not to go into a dark alley at night in a sketchy urban environment, thereby avoiding a mugging, rape, or worse.
Everyone in the business world must make dozens of judgements every day. Having good judgment is one of the things that helps a businesswoman offer products and services that her customers wish to purchase, thereby allowing her to meet her payroll & keep employees employed.
Good judgment is one of the skills that helps people stay in a good relationship or leave a bad one -- or not enter into a bad one in the first place.
Good judgment is one of the skills that helps a woman decide not to go into a dark alley at night in a sketchy urban environment, thereby avoiding a mugging, rape, or worse.
No. They want help. There is a difference.
Having good judgement is not being judgmental.( having or displaying an excessively critical point of view.)
Being judgmental is not always "having or displaying an excessively critical point of view."
That's one meaning that is not the current understood meaning. Being judgmental has negative associations with it. No one ever compliments someone for being judgmental.
1-2 out of 100? So 98-99% of these types of tenants just don’t care and treat the place like a dump? Sorry, not buying it.
I don't know what the actual percentage is of Section 8 tenants who are bad tenants, but there are landlords all over this country who have had experiences so horrible with Section 8 tenants that they will not accept any Section 8 tenants. As bad as the experiences are with Section 8 tenants, the dealings with housing authorities, again all over the USA, have been even worse.
There is a reason why so many landlords will not take Section 8 tenants. There has been too much collective experience that the Section 8 tenants are difficult, destructive, entitled, and know how to game the system.
I'd be happy to accept a Section 8 tenant. All they have to do is to pass the reasonable screening process that all my tenants have passed. But so far none of them has passed. I get two types of Section 8 tenants applying, divided pretty close to 50/50. I get welfare frauds or I get filthy dirty stinky people with a history of being destructive and sneaking in their homeless friends and drug dealing boyfriend. My personal experience is that 100% of Section 8 tenants are bad (but I am sure there are some decent ones somewhere that are deserving of help they just haven't ever applied to rent from me)
All of you who feel that Section 8 tenants are wonderful deserving people and that it is this great program where your rent is guaranteed, go ahead and buy yourself a nice big apartment building, fill it up with deserving Section 8 tenants, get all your lovely guaranteed income, and come back in 5 years and let us know how well it has worked for you. Just don't mistakenly think you are going to guilt experienced landlords into providing your pet social programs for you out of their own pockets. When you are ready to pay for your own beliefs out of your own pocket, then we will see how it works for you.
I don't know what the actual percentage is of Section 8 tenants who are bad tenants, but there are landlords all over this country who have had experiences so horrible with Section 8 tenants that they will not accept any Section 8 tenants. As bad as the experiences are with Section 8 tenants, the dealings with housing authorities, again all over the USA, have been even worse.
There is a reason why so many landlords will not take Section 8 tenants. There has been too much collective experience that the Section 8 tenants are difficult, destructive, entitled, and know how to game the system.
I'd be happy to accept a Section 8 tenant. All they have to do is to pass the reasonable screening process that all my tenants have passed. But so far none of them has passed. I get two types of Section 8 tenants applying, divided pretty close to 50/50. I get welfare frauds or I get filthy dirty stinky people with a history of being destructive and sneaking in their homeless friends and drug dealing boyfriend. My personal experience is that 100% of Section 8 tenants are bad (but I am sure there are some decent ones somewhere that are deserving of help they just haven't ever applied to rent from me)
All of you who feel that Section 8 tenants are wonderful deserving people and that it is this great program where your rent is guaranteed, go ahead and buy yourself a nice big apartment building, fill it up with deserving Section 8 tenants, get all your lovely guaranteed income, and come back in 5 years and let us know how well it has worked for you. Just don't mistakenly think you are going to guilt experienced landlords into providing your pet social programs for you out of their own pockets. When you are ready to pay for your own beliefs out of your own pocket, then we will see how it works for you.
Eh, seems like the goalposts are shifting. Nobody here has once argued that there are not problem section 8 tenants. Of course you’re going to hear all the horror stories, especially on this forum. Someone is more likely to post how bad it is here vs how it’s been fine because the latter does not fit the narrative.
Nobody is forcing you to rent to section 8. However, the numbers that people throw out here like 98-99% are bad people or tenants deserve to be challenged.
At the end of the day, these folks can be vetted and subject to the same guidelines as other applicants. How do LL end up with so many horrible tenants if they are doing adequate background checks?
It takes effort to have a lousy score with pages of charge offs...
I have rented to those with no or little credit and a "Clean" record...
On the other hand, if someone in their 20's or 30's comes to you with pages of charge offs... why would you want to be added to that list.
Coming across this post amazes me , people in their 20s and 30s with pages of charge off should not be rewarded with section 8 vouchers.
It's crazy to think there are real people like this who exist. I guess when folks are happy with welfare/handouts, there's no incentive to take care of their credit to actually get something nice for themselves one day.
That's one meaning that is not the current understood meaning. Being judgmental has negative associations with it. No one ever compliments someone for being judgmental.
Incorrect.
Do you think writing in all-bold somehow adds weight to your argument? Why not write in all-caps as well?
Do you think writing in all-bold somehow adds weight to your argument? Why not write in all-caps as well?
Says the person who posted a huge definition with a huge green stripe. I bet people tell you that you are judgmental all the time, and they are not complementing you.
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, people in their 20s and 30s with pages of charge off should not be rewarded with section 8 vouchers.
