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Old 04-30-2017, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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Many women prefer NOT to have obstetricians.... rural or urban.

Your less likely to have a C-section with a midwife. OB-GYNs are notorious for being overbooked and unable to be available when moms give birth..... or they're out on the golf course so much that they insist on doing their work on their schedule rather than the moms and babies.

I'd take a good master's prepared midwife over many of the OBs I've come in contact iwth over the years - in a heartbeat.
There are many, both men and women, who prefer to consult clerks in health food/pill stores. There are others who go to practitioners who burn various plants and saturate the area with what they say are healing fumes. They seem to go further and further down the medical hierarchy looking for the perfect healer. They delude themselves because that perfect healer doesn't exist. They eschew the best available simply because of fear.
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Old 05-01-2017, 08:54 AM
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Location: North Monterey County
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Many nurses I know have taught physicians more about patient care than they ever learned in medical school.

It's not fear - it's a choice.
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Old 05-03-2017, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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Nutrition is as important to the health of the elderly as it is to others. Yet so many in cities are apparently unable to supply themselves with fresh produce and, in some cases, without even frozen food. Canned food is available online, but people often wish a fresh salad or real mashed potatoes. Many people desire fresh meat as well.

Want healthy food? In much of Mass., it’s hard to get - The Boston Globe
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Old 05-03-2017, 11:46 AM
 
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I don't think the trend has anything to do with the ACA - that is insurance based regulation.
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You think wrong. The ACA is all that makes it possible for many rural families (as well as families and individuals all across the country) to be able to use a hospital and its doctors AT ALL.

The repeal of the ACA and the gutting of the rural health care programs means many fewer potential "customers" for the hospital - which means accelerating the rate of closures, shut-downs, and reduction of staff and services.
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Old 05-03-2017, 12:50 PM
 
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You think wrong. The ACA is all that makes it possible for many rural families (as well as families and individuals all across the country) to be able to use a hospital and its doctors AT ALL.

The repeal of the ACA and the gutting of the rural health care programs means many fewer potential "customers" for the hospital - which means accelerating the rate of closures, shut-downs, and reduction of staff and services.
That is a sad story, but probably not true. The vast majority of hospitals were built and in use before ACA. The medical industry always wants more.
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Old 05-03-2017, 03:20 PM
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Location: North Monterey County
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That is a sad story, but probably not true. The vast majority of hospitals were built and in use before ACA. The medical industry always wants more.
Here's a cluestick.... there are VERY FEW hospitals in rural areas. Getting rid of the ACA will close the doors of the few that are left.
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Old 05-03-2017, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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Here's a cluestick.... there are VERY FEW hospitals in rural areas. Getting rid of the ACA will close the doors of the few that are left.
Americans call it OBAMACARE. We have been forced to pay for Medicare for years, only to see Medicare payment cuts to hospitals with the advent of Obamacare. We don't need "Repeal and Replace." We just need "Repeal."

Let people make their own decisions.

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Old 05-03-2017, 06:29 PM
 
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That is a sad story, but probably not true. The vast majority of hospitals were built and in use before ACA. The medical industry always wants more.
It IS true. In the past rural hospitals were partially supported by government programs aimed at encouraging improved access to health care in rural areas. Most, if not all, of those programs have recently been gutted.

The ACA allowed such hospitals to continue because the ACA provided an alternate revenue stream.

Once both the federal funding AND the revenue stream from ACA patients is gone, hospitals will have to close or drastically reduce personnel and services because money to cover salaries and operating costs doesn't magically appear.

I've lived in rural areas - also worked in a rural development hospital - so I am VERY well aware of how this all works.
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Old 05-03-2017, 06:32 PM
 
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Americans call it OBAMACARE. We have been forced to pay for Medicare for years, only to see Medicare payment cuts to hospitals with the advent of Obamacare. We don't need "Repeal and Replace." We just need "Repeal."

Let people make their own decisions.

.
OH certainly, let them decide to do without medical care altogether because they have no money and no insurance. GREAT idea.

Euthanization based on class/economic status. Apparently you're all for it.

I'll support "repeal" - as long as we institute single payer coverage (aka "socialized medicine") first.
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Old 05-03-2017, 06:34 PM
 
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There are many, both men and women, who prefer to consult clerks in health food/pill stores. There are others who go to practitioners who burn various plants and saturate the area with what they say are healing fumes. They seem to go further and further down the medical hierarchy looking for the perfect healer. They delude themselves because that perfect healer doesn't exist. They eschew the best available simply because of fear.
Yeah. None of those people are licensed professional health care providers.

A midwife with a Master's degree IS.
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