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Old 03-13-2018, 08:55 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
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Oregon wasn't part of the Confederacy, so I'm not clear how it equates with regional pride!
You missed the part where not everyone who lives in Oregon was born and raised their entire life in Oregon?
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Old 03-13-2018, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Baker City, Oregon
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As for confederate flags, so what? Everyone I know that has a confederate flag it is about regional pride, not racism.......................
The declaration by the left that the display of the Confederate flag is racist is a fairly recent event.

When the popular TV show The Dukes of Hazzard was aired, the controversy was whether Daisy Duke's daisy dukes were too risque for prime time television, not the flag painted on the roof of the General Lee.

Nobody ever asked the people in Sweet Home or anywhere else why they were displaying the flag. Without any facts to back it up, the left just made the decision that they were racists.
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Old 03-13-2018, 11:34 AM
 
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There were quite a few families from the south living in Sweet Home when my father taught school there. One of my friends wrote her Master's thesis on the similarities between that particular subculture and the poor whites of Appalachia. I have vague memories of kids with bad teeth and poor hygiene, none of whom graduated high school; they and their offspring are the ones flying the stars and bars.

Some of us actually did think the Dukes of Hazzard was fairly racist -- what we could stomach of the thing, at least. It was the sort of ignorant spectacle you just looked away from.

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Old 03-13-2018, 05:04 PM
 
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Its history not hate. I am a college educated medical professional and I fly the stars and bars.
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Old 03-13-2018, 10:49 PM
 
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They quit publicly beating up gays back in the nineties in most of Oregon. Most of the queers in Portland, Eugene and Ashland have been safe since the seventies if not earlier.
Some cops tend to still airest the gays for using their faces to attack innocent hands.
Then again, I heard in Portland they let the gays rape the children if yourare a Democrat in good standing, but you know how those Satanic cults can Seth Rich any witnesses that pisses off a Democrat in a tight race.

But seriously, Sweethome is not as bad as the visitors and liberal media make out. Those high crime stats are because they have a high conviction rate in Linn County. The joke about cops arresting the victim is based on first hand knowledge back in the day.

Green Peter lake is not considered a socialist hang out. Detroit lake has a bigger meth problem, so they have a higher tolerance for queers and the dramatics gender damaged can inflict on the community.
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Old 03-14-2018, 06:25 PM
 
Location: NW Oregon
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Some of us actually did think the Dukes of Hazzard was fairly racist -- what we could stomach of the thing, at least. It was the sort of ignorant spectacle you just looked away from.
I'm honestly curious as to why you feel the show was racist?
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Old 03-14-2018, 07:23 PM
 
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Naming their car after a general who fought to keep an entire race of people enslaved was a pretty clear indication.

This is a fairly good discussion of the situation that explores several viewpoints. I tend to agree with this:

https://thetylt.com/culture/confeder...-heritage-hate

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Critics say this usage is sadly typical: the rebel flag is often brandished in places and situations that aren't connected with Southern heritage, and that it's done specifically to intimidate and terrorize people of color.
Not really interested in a "debate" on this issue.
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Old 03-14-2018, 11:45 PM
 
Location: NW Oregon
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I'm not interested in a debate either. Don't think either of those reasons is legitimate because that wasn't the reason for their use. I highly doubt they were used for anything other than to imply "Southern" heritage. I am well aware of the history, but the show was not intentionally racist.
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Old 03-15-2018, 02:44 AM
 
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I didn't mean that the show was intentionally racist; but rather that the whole white "good ol' boy" culture is one in which racism is deeply ingrained. The stars and bars and the General Lee were just embellishments that weren't essential to the story in the same manner as the slavery depicted in Gone With the Wind, for instance.
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Old 03-15-2018, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Portland Metro
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Seems like Dukes of Hazzard was part of a trend in 70s and 80s media of kind of "nice-ifying" Southern culture after the bad reputation (for good reason) that the South got in the media in the 50s and 60s. I think it was an attempt to soften our views of Southern whites to balance out the images of Southern black people being beaten by whites, sprayed with fire hoses, and attacked by German Shepherds. That show was immensely popular--it was the #2 show in the Neilsen Ratings in the 1980-81 TV season.

Based on my teenage experiences visiting family in Arkansas during the time the show was on the air, I'd say the show was NOT a depiction of the reality of Southern life though! The show's script didn't have enough N-words.
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