Never pay a red light camera ticket! Unenforceable. (merged/updated) (San Antonio: school, bus)

[Matadora]

Originally Posted by baytownb

Too bad there wasn't a cop around to give him a real ticket instead of a mailed request for $75 weeks later that might not even go to him if he isn't the registered owner of the truck.

It's clear that you are dismissing very clear basic regulations

The police are not always sitting around to capture red running light offenders.

Anyone who allows another person to drive a vehicle registered to the person who loaned their vehicle is responsible for all liabilities the person they allowed to use their vehicle incurred. If this is not the law then the law needs to be changed.

If the vehicle was stolen or taken without authorization (which is technically the same as stealing the vehicle) then of course the ticket is not the responsibility of the person the car is registered to.

[resonator]

Well what do you know ? Got one in the mail today, $300. School bus camera.

Met the bus head-on, 5 lanes over, on a major throughway with a divider down the middle.

Looks like the cop who reviewed the picture cannot see the divider in the middle of the road.

Oh and the GPS coordinates show the bus a quarter mile back in the subdivision, way off the main road I was on.

I'm not even going to do the mail 'contest the fine' they offer.

Straight to trash can. Like half of the others that get these.

[flashfearless]

You’d be a fool to do so.

[resonator]

No penalty, only a fool pays these

private company assessed and administered top to bottom
its a San Antonio city ordinance sponsored program with State Law restrictions that makes payment optional

[lipbalm]

So years ago my ex wife got one of the cars as part of the divorce. She never changed the registration to her name, then I got hit with 500 dollars in red light camera fines from the car SHE was driving. I tried to explain this was not my car but they did not care. They just wanted the money. That’s when I realize how much of a scam this whole thing really was.

[resonator]

Just to be safe on current enforcement capability, my lawyer says toss it.
Couple bills to ban this practice have been filed in the TX leg but both died in committee.

The camera company gets 60=75% of the fine for providing this service. Remainder is split between SA city and the school district.

As these camera companies become richer, more legislators can be bought.

If they are going to ticket the car, and have photo proof of the car's violation then the car should definitely pay the fine.

[Bo]

If the state legislature was funding schools adequately and local governments were permitted to tax sufficiently, there wouldn't be a market for traffic violations as a revenue source.

[TexasRedneck]

Originally Posted by Bo

If the state legislature was funding schools adequately and local governments were permitted to tax sufficiently, there wouldn't be a market for traffic violations as a revenue source.

You know better - a bureaucrat never met a revenue stream they didn't love......

[TrapperL]

funding schools adequately

Sorry Bo but you have no idea how much the schools literally screw off. They are known to buy over a million dollars of an item and then never use it or they just trash it. Sometimes they sell it for pennies on the dollar. This is what the wife does everyday for one of the school districts. Sometimes she comes home so sick from from work due to the incredible crap that goes on. I can't wait until next year when she can finally get out of that hell hole and retire. Next new school you see going up, stop and take a look at the architectural detail that makes these schools monuments to the head nut called superintendent. Look at the MILLIONS, yeah, that's plural, of dollars in just technology that is worthless in just a few years. And why do cheerleaders now have to have their own gym? Best not to get me started but there's a huge amount of money just screwed off on schools and all of the BS.

[resonator]

Costs money to rename them too.