Beyond Chron: Oakland, A tale of two cities (San Diego, San Jose: school district, area code)

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by jade408

So can you please explain to me why Oakland is held to a different reporting accuracy standard again?

mod cut back in uniform-standards-land, Oakland's improvement is very impressive.

Oakland Unemployment Rate(CA State EDD)
2010 16.9%
2011 15.0%
2012 13.1%

According to the Census Bureau, Oakland's rate in 2011 was 12.3%
and would definitely be lower now in 2012.

Anyway, the Census puts things into perspective.

It all depends on who we're talking about:
Unemployment Rate for Persons Below Poverty Level: 33.3%

Its worth pointing out that the equivalent rate for poor people in Long Beach, Sacramento
and Fresno are all similar to Oakland's , if not higher.

[18Montclair]

Anyway, Just perusing this thread:

They said that Oakland, not other similarly sized cities, is disproportionately dependent on welfare dollars-PROVEN FALSE.

They said that Oakland is not attracting Venture Capital-PROVEN FALSE.

They said that Oakland's unemployment rate is getting worse-PROVEN FALSE.

They said that Oakland is operating under a budget deficit implying mismanagement-PROVEN FALSE.

They said that Oakland's schools are doing particularly bad compared to other urban districts-PROVEN FALSE.

They said that people wont spend $400,000 for homes in Oakand because of the schools-PROVEN FALSE.

Furthermore, when pressed to explain how eating out and enjoying the city's amenities translates into 'burying our heads in the sand' with respect to crime, ZERO exampes have been given proving that this is indeed the case or even plausible.

Its all been quite illuminating and amusing.

[DocGoldstein]

I thought it was proven quite true that Oakland's schools do worse than other urban school districts.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by DocGoldstein

I thought it was proven quite true that Oakland's schools do worse than other urban school districts.

No, not really hun.

[DocGoldstein]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

No, not really hun.

Here are some 2011 Base API scores from some California urban areas in comparison to Oakland Unified:

2011 San Diego Base API: 797
2011 San Jose Base API: 797
2011 S.F Base API: 796
2011 Los Angeles Base API: 729
2011 Oakland Base API: 726

I think this issue can be put to rest.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by DocGoldstein

Here are some 2011 Base API scores from some California urban areas in comparison to Oakland Unified:

2011 San Diego Base API: 797
2011 San Jose Base API: 797
2011 S.F Base API: 796
2011 Los Angeles Base API: 729
2011 Oakland Base API: 726

I appreciate the holiday themed, festive colors but you have clearly proved that Oakland, mod cut is actually in the same score range(700-800) as every other large California City.

I am almost tempted to rep you for proving that quite succintly. Almost.
mod cut

Also, children eventually grow up:

California Cities(Pop 65,000+) by the percentage of adults with a Bachelor's Degree, 2009(10 Largest Cities in Bold)
Berkeley 69.8%
Irvine 65.3%
Santa Monica 62.3%
Mountain View 61.0%
Newport Beach 59.9%
Redondo Beach 58.9%
Sunnyvale 55.5%
Pleasanton 53.5%
San Francisco 52.0%
Carlsbad 50.8%
Thousand Oaks 48.8%
Fremont 48.5%
Pasadena 46.9%
Santa Clara 46.0%
Torrance 45.8%
Yorba Linda 45.8%
San Mateo 45.5%
Alameda 45.4%
Mission Viejo 42.9%
Santa Barbara 41.7%
San Diego 41.3%
Burbank 40.7%
Folsom 40.4%
Chino Hills 39.9%
Lake Forest 39.8%
Union City 39.8%
Redwood City 39.0%
Glendale 38.9%
Huntington Beach 38.7%
Milpitas 38.7%
Alhambra 38.3%
Redlands 37.6%
Livermore 37.0%
OAKLAND 36.8%
Tustin 35.8%
San Jose 35.6%
Fullerton 35.2%
Murrieta 34.0%
Arden Arcade 33.6%
Daly City 33.2%
Roseville 33.0%
Chico 32.7%
Elk Grove 32.3%
Santa Clarita 31.7%
San Buenaventura 31.4%
Upland 31.3%
Costa Mesa 30.7%
Los Angeles 30.3%
Santa Rosa 30.3%
Temecula 30.1%
Rancho Cucamonga 30.0%
Sacramento 29.9%
STATE OF CALIFORNIA 29.9%
Simi Valley 29.8%
Clovis 29.7%
Orange 29.3%
Lakewood 29.1%
Richmond 29.1%
Napa 28.6%
San Marcos 28.1%
West Covina 27.8%
Long Beach 27.1%
Oceanside 27.0%
Concord 27.0%
Buena Park 25.7%
Chula Vista 25.5%
San Leandro 25.5%
Vallejo 25.5%
Hayward 24.6%
Vista 23.8%
Whittier 23.5%
Fairfield 23.2%
Corona 23.0%
Redding 23.0%
Anaheim 22.6%
Escondido 22.6%
Tracy 21.8%
Fresno 21.5%
Antioch 21.1%
Vacaville 20.6%
Riverside 20.3%
Carson 19.8%
Westminster 19.8%
Chino 19.3%
Tracy 19.3%
Visalia 18.9%
Citrus Heights 18.6%
Garden Grove 17.8%
Stockton 17.7%
Inglewood 17.5%
Bakersfield 17.2%
Modesto 17.2%
El Cajon 17.0%
Hawthorne 16.9%
Manteca 16.8%
Downey 16.3%
Pomona 16.3%
Bellflower 15.7%
Indio 15.7%
Pittsburg 15.0%
Lancaster 14.9%
Moreno Valley 14.8%
Merced 14.7%
Apple Valley 14.6%
Fontana 14.5%
Oxnard 13.8%
Ontario 13.1%
Palmdale 12.9%
Santa Maria 12.6%
Norwalk 12.3%
Victorville 12.1%
Salinas 11.8%
Santa Ana 11.6%
Hemet 11.7%
San Bernardino 11.3%
Baldwin Park 10.9%
El Monte 10.7%
Rialto 9.2%
Compton 8.4%
Hesperia 8.1%
South Gate 5.0%
East Los Angeles 4.4%
Lynwood 3.6%

Percentage of Adults with a Graduate Degree, 2009
10%+(California's 10 Largest Cities over 10% in Bold)
Berkeley 38.0%
Mountain View 36.3%
Irvine 27.1%
Santa Monica 26.7%
Sunnyvale 25.9%
Newport Beach 24.1%
Thousand Oaks 20.9%
Pasadena 20.7%
Fremont 20.4%
Pleasanton 20.3%
Redondo Beach 20.2%
San Francisco 20.1%
Santa Clara 19.7%
Yorba Linda 19.2%
Carlsbad 19.0%
Alameda 18.6%
San Mateo 18.6%
Santa Barbara 18.4%
Folsom 15.8%
San Diego 15.6%
Mission Viejo 15.5%
OAKLAND 15.4%
Redwood City 15.2%
Torrance 15.2%
Redlands 14.7%
Chino Hills 14.6%
Livermore 14.1%
Milpitas 13.7%
San Jose 13.4%
Huntington Beach 13.1%
Lake Forest 12.9%
Arden Arcade 12.8%
Union City 12.4%
Glendale 12.3%
Burbank 12.2%
Chico 11.8%
Roseville 11.8%
San Buenaventura 11.7%
Upland 11.6%
Tustin 11.5%
Orange 11.2%
Temecula 11.0%
Santa Rosa 10.8%
STATE OF CALIFORNIA 10.7%
Costa Mesa 10.5%
Alhambra 10.4%
Rancho Cucamonga 10.4%
Clovis 10.2%

I think this issue can be put to rest.

Promise?

[DocGoldstein]

LAUSD takes lots of criticisms for their schools, and a huge budget deficit. I'm not sure being compared to L.A is such a great thing. S.F also gets criticism for its schools by people from Oakland, but as you can see, on average, their base score is 70 points higher which is truly telling.

[04kL4nD]

SF has a ton more money than Oakland. So does SJ and SD.

What were Oakland's API scores a few years ago? I seem to remember them being much worse...

[DocGoldstein]

Well S.F and San Diego simply commit money where it's needed. Studies have shown, children who don't drop out of school are less likely to become career criminals.

Oakland so far has not only diverted funds from schools but also laid off 200+ officers in the past 4 years. Yet people think the budget is "fixed" in Oakland.

[04kL4nD]

Who said anything was fixed?

Fixing and fixed aren't the same thing