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Maybe, as some of the comments allude to, they have to work so much they don't have time or energy to go outside. So their company does what it can to keep them within the confines of their own walls.
Then again, maybe they wouldn't know what to do if they went outside, anyway.
Some of these authors really need to get a life. My friend works at the Google in San Francisco and they have a beautiful gourmet style buffet restaurant that is free with beautiful views of the Bay Bridge. So why would employees want to go pay $10 for an overpriced sandwich down the street when they can get a free Las Vegas quality buffet with arguably some of the best views in the city? The snippet about Facebook looking like a sea of cars, well, large companies need parking lots. Sorry, but you aren't going to get thousands of people in one building without a parking lot. Not to mention, opening a huge office building in the heart of any urban setting is the most expensive and probably one of the hardest to get city approval because of increased traffic.
Maybe, as some of the comments allude to, they have to work so much they don't have time or energy to go outside. So their company does what it can to keep them within the confines of their own walls.
Then again, maybe they wouldn't know what to do if they went outside, anyway.
I've said it many times, more then half my friends work in tech. When I moved back to San Francisco, most of my old friends were in different cities, so I essentially had to start from scratch. I went to a ton of meetup events and the majority of the people I met worked in tech. We actually laughed about it because every time we introduce ourselves and say what we do for a living it was like... tech, tech, tech, tech, porn star...jk im in tech too etc. So to say they are anti-social isn't true and it's stupid talking about them like an animal. I guess we can say Black people are all thugs, lawyers are all scumbags, gays all have aids and Whites are all snobs with that logic.... it's stupid to say such things.
I've said it many times, more then half my friends work in tech. When I moved back to San Francisco, most of my old friends were in different cities, so I essentially had to start from scratch. I went to a ton of meetup events and the majority of the people I met worked in tech. We actually laughed about it because every time we introduce ourselves and say what we do for a living it was like... tech, tech, tech, tech, porn star...jk im in tech too etc. So to say they are anti-social isn't true and it's stupid talking about them like an animal. I guess we can say Black people are all thugs, lawyers are all scumbags, gays all have aids and Whites are all snobs with that logic.... it's stupid to say such things.
I live and work in the heart of SV (these days usually in the shadow of One Infinite Loop, with people wandering around town with tags). Got friends up in SF who abhor the geek invasion. I know of which I speak.
Funny that, in order to socialize, they need to...go online to find out where scheduled "meetups" of random people occur.
I've said it many times, more then half my friends work in tech. When I moved back to San Francisco, most of my old friends were in different cities, so I essentially had to start from scratch. I went to a ton of meetup events and the majority of the people I met worked in tech. We actually laughed about it because every time we introduce ourselves and say what we do for a living it was like... tech, tech, tech, tech, porn star...jk im in tech too etc. So to say they are anti-social isn't true and it's stupid talking about them like an animal. I guess we can say Black people are all thugs, lawyers are all scumbags, gays all have aids and Whites are all snobs with that logic.... it's stupid to say such things.
For the last time: YOUR experience =/= the collective experience of EVERYBODY
Nobody here has claimed that every single tech worker is anti-social, socially awkward, and incapable of getting along with non-tech workers. But there are enough who are that make it possible to warrant a discussion about it. It's great that you and all your techie friends are every day joes who are just like everyone else (if such a thing even exists in SF anyway), but you are basically denying that these anti-social tech workers even exist, simply because YOU haven't encountered them. You're insisting that this is some made up, imagined problem, because it isn't a part of your experience/worldview. Other posters and I are simply pointing out this this IS a reality for other people, and we can see where they are coming from. For the 298123012381203th time: I personally don't have a problem with techies. But if I had been living in a working class neighborhood, used to interacting with my neighbors and socializing with them at coffeeshops and restaurants which suddenly are filled with taciturn, snobby techies, I'd probably be pretty annoyed. I'd be REALLY mad if I was forced to move because of these people. Are you completely incapable of empathy? Because this is actually happening to SOME people, even if you refuse to believe it.
Since you continue to insist on making the gay person comparison, let me give you an analogy to consider: Many, but certainly not ALL, gay men who live in the Castro and SOMA are into partying, one night stands, etc. To say, "BUT OMG ALL MY GAY FRIENDS ARE MARRIED AND DON'T EVEN GO TO GAY BARS!!! THEY'RE JUST LIKE REGULAR STRAIGHT PEOPLE!!" (trust me, I've heard people say this before) is disingenuous to both groups. Maybe the only gay people you know are the partying type, maybe the only gay people you aren't, maybe you don't know any gay people period, or maybe you know lots of gay people who have very different lifestyles- I honestly have no clue. But to deny the existence of any of those perceptions/worldviews is REALLY short-sighted.
I live and work in the heart of SV (these days usually in the shadow of One Infinite Loop, with people wandering around town with tags). Got friends up in SF who abhor the geek invasion. I know of which I speak.
Funny that, in order to socialize, they need to...go online to find out where scheduled "meetups" of random people occur.
Nobody needs to go only to find random people, but if you're new in town, short of hanging out with coworkers, what do you expect people to do? Just intuitively know where people with the same interests hang out? Everyone else tends to just spend time with their friends, they are not out there looking for friends all the time. You seriously don't know what you're talking about, how many people do you actually know that work in tech? Like 2? If so you need a larger sample.
Since you continue to insist on making the gay person comparison, let me give you an analogy to consider: Many, but certainly not ALL, gay men who live in the Castro and SOMA are into partying, one night stands, etc. To say, "BUT OMG ALL MY GAY FRIENDS ARE MARRIED AND DON'T EVEN GO TO GAY BARS!!! THEY'RE JUST LIKE REGULAR STRAIGHT PEOPLE!!" (trust me, I've heard people say this before) is disingenuous to both groups. Maybe the only gay people you know are the partying type, maybe the only gay people you aren't, maybe you don't know any gay people period, or maybe you know lots of gay people who have very different lifestyles- I honestly have no clue. But to deny the existence of any of those perceptions/worldviews is REALLY short-sighted.
You say one thing here, but the opposite on the main threads. It is prejudice plain and simple. I wouldn't tolerate people complaining about gays moving to their neighborhood saying they would bring too much noise, or complaining about blacks or Hispanics saying they would bring too much crime. But yet for tech workers it is okay to stereotype like that and complain they are going to bring anti-social behavior. I would certainly not tolerate that. Granted I am biased since my partner and I are all those things. So rather than actually complaining about us before we even move there, how about actually getting to know your neighbors when they move in, they probably think you're aloof since you never even bothered, so they don't talk to you.
And yeah, it is a myth perpetuated by people that don't like tech workers, or "geeks" or "nerds" as people used to call them in school, they didn't like these people back then because they have different interests, and they don't like them now. Just because people say something enough times doesn't make it true, gay people are not more likely to molest children, but that trope has been done to death by people that want gay people out of their communities. I think we shouldn't stoop to that level. Communication and social skills are something that are important for most tech work.
I've said it many times, more then half my friends work in tech. When I moved back to San Francisco, most of my old friends were in different cities, so I essentially had to start from scratch. I went to a ton of meetup events and the majority of the people I met worked in tech. We actually laughed about it because every time we introduce ourselves and say what we do for a living it was like... tech, tech, tech, tech, porn star...jk im in tech too etc. So to say they are anti-social isn't true and it's stupid talking about them like an animal. I guess we can say Black people are all thugs, lawyers are all scumbags, gays all have aids and Whites are all snobs with that logic.... it's stupid to say such things.
This. As a society we think judging people like that based on other parts of who they are is wrong, but work in tech and we will make up **** about you, without really even knowing you. How tolerant. I am used to seeing this sort of prejudice from Republicans and other conservatives, judging me for dating a guy, or immigrating into this country. Trying to extrapolate other qualities I may have based on stereotypes, and judging me based on such stereotypes, I expect that from conservatives, but didn't from everyday people here. Either way regardless of who does it, it is wrong, and stupid. Get to know people before you judge them.
You say one thing here, but the opposite on the main threads. It is prejudice plain and simple. I wouldn't tolerate people complaining about gays moving to their neighborhood saying they would bring too much noise, or complaining about blacks or Hispanics saying they would bring too much crime. But yet for tech workers it is okay to stereotype like that and complain they are going to bring anti-social behavior. I would certainly not tolerate that. Granted I am biased since my partner and I are all those things. So rather than actually complaining about us before we even move there, how about actually getting to know your neighbors when they move in, they probably think you're aloof since you never even bothered, so they don't talk to you.
And yeah, it is a myth perpetuated by people that don't like tech workers, or "geeks" or "nerds" as people used to call them in school, they didn't like these people back then because they have different interests, and they don't like them now. Just because people say something enough times doesn't make it true, gay people are not more likely to molest children, but that trope has been done to death by people that want gay people out of their communities. I think we shouldn't stoop to that level. Communication and social skills are something that are important for most tech work.
Right. So just like bmw335xi, because it doesn't apply to you, it can't be true. Thanks for that insightful post.
Since you skipped over the rest of my earlier post, I'll repeat myself AGAIN:
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For the 298123012381203th time: I personally don't have a problem with techies. But if I had been living in a working class neighborhood, used to interacting with my neighbors and socializing with them at coffeeshops and restaurants which suddenly are filled with taciturn, snobby techies, I'd probably be pretty annoyed. I'd be REALLY mad if I was forced to move because of these people. Are you completely incapable of empathy? Because this is actually happening to SOME people, even if you refuse to believe it.
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