A plea to the tech industry: Please leave our fair city alone (San Diego: real estate market, apartment)

[18Montclair]

And I never said SF is perfect, only that it's more perfect than most places, most certainly more perfect than Phoenix by a mile or two. I mean, really that goes without saying.

[MassVt]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Yes, people pay through the nose to live in some cities but wont do that elsewhere. That's life.

Some people can be quite silly, too.

I live in a very expensive area, as well, and people leave daily because of it. More and more of the recent college grads aren't staying, either.

Politics or not ( and I'm fairly "blue" in orientation). it's not much of a reason to hang around when there are more reasonable alternatives. Any large city has the capacity to have significant amounts of culture, however you choose to define it.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by MassVt

Some people can be quite silly, too.

I live in a very expensive area, as well, and people leave daily because of it. More and more of the recent college grads aren't staying, either.

Politics or not ( and I'm fairly "blue" in orientation). it's not much of a reason to hang around when there are more reasonable alternatives. Any large city has the capacity to have significant amounts of culture, however you choose to define it.

Two responses:
1. There is, quite frankly, especially for those of us who live in and love SF, no "reasonable alternative".
2. The more people who DO choose to leave - the better, IMHO.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by MassVt

Some people can be quite silly, too.

Well, unlike you, I dont sit around passing judgement on how other people spend their money as it's largely none of my business. And generally, I wouldnt call a home purchase "silly" just because of the dollar amount they spent. ijs.

[AnthonyJ34]

Originally Posted by Sovetsky Medved

18Montclair: Then again, if you really live in San Francisco, your probably paying 75% or more for your rent, So you probably can't afford to travel any further than the BART Lines run

To me, overpaying for real estate or rent is not very sophisticated or smart. I love San Francisco, and I visit often, but I couldn't justify my getting reamed just to be able to live in the City. It's a picturesque city no doubt, but it's not so picturesque or urbane or cosmopolitan to justify paying what it costs to live there. But I suspect the more snobby folks are of the variety who want to overpay for things as a way of flaunting their socio-economic clout! 'Look how much rent I pay in San Francisco -- LOOK, LOOK AT ME!' Lol. I guess living in SF is the equivalent of sporting a Prada purse and driving a Beemer!
People.

And I'm not praising Phoenix, either. I hate heat, and I'm not a desert person, so Phoenix (or any desert town) is off my radar. But Flagstaff and Sedona are nice.

[probablyimnotsure]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

They contribute hugely to my pleasure, which is the basis for my choice. So yeah, subjectively, they do

Good for you.

[probablyimnotsure]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

And I never said SF is perfect, only that it's more perfect than most places, most certainly more perfect than Phoenix by a mile or two. I mean, really that goes without saying.

You know what? I agree with you. I think San Francisco is a lot better than Phoenix. I actually like San Francisco. It's just you seem to posses that insufferable, smug, San Francisco attitude that many people talk about. So I wanted to humble you a little bit. I also think it's cute that you think SF can compare with New York.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by AnthonyJ34

To me, overpaying for real estate or rent is not very sophisticated or smart. I love San Francisco, and I visit often, but I couldn't justify my getting reamed just to be able to live in the City. It's a picturesque city no doubt, but it's not so picturesque or urbane or cosmopolitan to justify paying what it costs to live there. But I suspect the more snobby folks are of the variety who want to overpay for things as a way of flaunting their socio-economic clout! 'Look how much rent I pay in San Francisco -- LOOK, LOOK AT ME!' Lol. I guess living in SF is the equivalent of sporting a Prada purse and driving a Beemer!
People.

And I'm not praising Phoenix, either. I hate heat, and I'm not a desert person, so Phoenix (or any desert town) is off my radar. But Flagstaff and Sedona are nice.

Well, Anthony - I'm a recently retired blue-collar worker with a high-school GED equivalency diploma. That's it. No Prada purse. No Beemer ('91 Toyota pickup with 265,000 miles - in really nice shape though ). Been here since 1966. Love it still. If people love the City's dynamic and ambiance, and are willing to pay, they're not getting "reamed". They're buying what they like.

[Tomlcsc]

Originally Posted by 18montclair

yeah, i didnt read past the first few lines and certainly didnt watch the vid. **yawns**

why you continue to blather on about plain and forgettable cleveland and phoenix versus a lofty olympus such as sf is by comparison, is beyond me.

I mean, i dont know which new chain store opened up there that has you feeling all uppity but you should probably take a chill pill cause your not changing anyone's mind in this thread.

Fyi.

lol!

[Annie1004]

Originally Posted by Sovetsky Medved

Now everyone knows how "Screwed Up" San Francisco's Left leaning politics are.
But I didn't know it was THIS BAD! OMG!
if you want an interesting read get this book.
I picked this up while in San francisco and Im almost thru with it and can't believe the messed up political history of this town.
as well as other things from there past.
very interesting read.
Season of the Witch: Enchantment, Terror, and Deliverance in the City of Love: David Talbot: 9781439108246: Amazon.com: Books

Great book, but then I know the author which makes me prejudiced. He hit on the well-knowns associated with the city for those not from this area. The headlines so to speak.

I don't understand the comparison between Phoenix and SF. Two entirely different places. Although I live here and have for many years, my times spent in the Phoenix and Scottsdale areas, not to mention Carefree, have been delightful. I am not for the desert, even when in bloom, nor the ocean, but love the Lake Tahoe area with its forests and less people congestion.

SF (and most of the Bay Area) is/are considered "sanctuary cities," which drives me nuts. At least Arizona's Jan Brewer put her foot down -- or tried to -- on illegal aliens. Kudos to Sheriff Joe.

This is like comparing apples to oranges. Both areas have their good points, and for different reasons.