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Old 02-22-2016, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Arizona, Colorado, Texas. I actually know people who did move to those places.
And I actually know people who are stuck in the Bay Area because they can't afford to move, or they have spent decades paying into a pension that they can't touch until they reach retirement age.
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Old 02-22-2016, 03:09 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I can't believe she's getting support from people.

-She doesn't have to pay a health plan premium and complains about a $20 copay?
-She didn't have money to take BART to work or pay a toll but had gas and money to pay for PARKING in SF? Also what about her commuter benefits that everyone who works for a company with more than 20 employees in SF gets?

Judging by her pics and posts on social media sounds like she is a pathological liar.
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Old 02-22-2016, 03:22 PM
 
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It sounds like she eats a lot more stuff than rice. I see cupcakes here.
"That's A lot Of Rice" by Talia Jane - Debunked
We all know that she is a feckless wastrel, how many different ways does it have to be stated? What she did accomplish is she got people talking about it. Just like the tech sector bus drivers who went public about their lousy pay and the requirement that they work split shifts with a 6 hour unpaid gap between bus runs. All of a sudden people became aware of it and didn't like it, the media ran with it and as a result Apple, Google & Yahoo suddenly put the pressure on the contractor, Compass transportation to sign the contract with the union.

I doubt whether that would have happened if those bus drivers hadn't made their case to the public.
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Old 02-22-2016, 03:38 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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Arizona, Colorado, Texas. I actually know people who did move to those places.
Sure some lower paid workers moved there. And I say good for them following opportunity best they could see it.

But "the lower half" of California's, or even the Bay Area's, workforce didn't move. And won't. And Arizona, Colorado, and Texas combined couldn't absorb and employ that many if they did all at once.

It was a hypothetical sigh from mysticaltyger. I get that. But the real answer isn't hypothetical.
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Old 02-22-2016, 03:39 PM
 
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We all know that she is a feckless wastrel, how many different ways does it have to be stated? What she did accomplish is she got people talking about it. Just like the tech sector bus drivers who went public about their lousy pay and the requirement that they work split shifts with a 6 hour unpaid gap between bus runs. All of a sudden people became aware of it and didn't like it, the media ran with it and as a result Apple, Google & Yahoo suddenly put the pressure on the contractor, Compass transportation to sign the contract with the union.

I doubt whether that would have happened if those bus drivers hadn't made their case to the public.
Good point... in this situation, I guess it got yelp to expand the team to AZ. Not sure how that will help the people currently in SF but... I don't know what else this company can really do in this situation. It seems like a lose-lose situation for them: keep low-paying jobs in SF and people complain it's too low, move them to lower cost places and people complain they didn't keep jobs in the area. The going rate for a customer service rep in any company is about minimum wage so not sure they'd up it just to up it.
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Old 02-22-2016, 03:42 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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I guess it got yelp to expand the team to AZ.
Nah. "They" (Yelp) were on it long before she wrote this.

Her piece was no wake up call they didn't realize long ago. Companies like Yelp don't suddenly make big decisions and announce them overnight.
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Old 02-22-2016, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Also what about her commuter benefits that everyone who works for a company with more than 20 employees in SF gets?
Those commuter benefits are just the employer needs to give you the option to use pretax money for your Clipper (transit costs) card. They aren't necessarily employer paid. And of course you can still run out!

And it can take 2 months to get your first deposit to your card, depending on where you fall in the month and the company's eligibility requirements. You have to signup for the program by the 12th of the month, and it takes a month to process. And the money lands on your card sometimes before the EOM. But they have no guarantee what day that my happen. Some months is shows up on the 21st. Other months it is the last day. Someone has to process each of those deposits by hand. It is actually super inefficient.

I started a new job in mid November, and my first Clipper deposit from that job didn't happen till the last day of December!
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Old 02-22-2016, 03:45 PM
 
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Good point... in this situation, I guess it got yelp to expand the team to AZ. Not sure how that will help the people currently in SF but... I don't know what else this company can really do in this situation. It seems like a lose-lose situation for them: keep low-paying jobs in SF and people complain it's too low, move them to lower cost places and people complain they didn't keep jobs in the area. The going rate for a customer service rep in any company is about minimum wage so not sure they'd up it just to up it.
Well, I guess if they consider their CSR's are worth the same as an entry level burger flipper then they were doing the right thing. If I ran a company I would pay enough to hire people who I could trust to represent the company, particularly when they are the first line of defense against complaints. As far as outsourcing to another state, they should have figured that one out a long time ago, it doesn't say much about their business sense.
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Old 02-22-2016, 04:00 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Those commuter benefits are just the employer needs to give you the option to use pretax money for your Clipper (transit costs) card. They aren't necessarily employer paid. And of course you can still run out!

And it can take 2 months to get your first deposit to your card, depending on where you fall in the month and the company's eligibility requirements. You have to signup for the program by the 12th of the month, and it takes a month to process. And the money lands on your card sometimes before the EOM. But they have no guarantee what day that my happen. Some months is shows up on the 21st. Other months it is the last day. Someone has to process each of those deposits by hand. It is actually super inefficient.

I started a new job in mid November, and my first Clipper deposit from that job didn't happen till the last day of December!
That's one of the options, the other two being an actual subsidy or bus/van service. Not sure what Yelp does.

Either way that doesn't change the fact that she likely spent more driving to SF than taking BART. She just seems terrible at making decisions overall.
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Old 02-22-2016, 04:23 PM
 
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That's one of the options, the other two being an actual subsidy or bus/van service. Not sure what Yelp does.

Either way that doesn't change the fact that she likely spent more driving to SF than taking BART. She just seems terrible at making decisions overall.
The unfortunate part is that because of her crummy decisions and the way she handled this episode (i.e. her very public entitled rant complaining about her plight), the conversation is on her millennial crybaby tendencies instead of on the issue that is worth talking about (income inequality in SF, and how to (if possible) address it).

I mean that in the general sense and not on City-Data specifically (because we talk about the Bay Area's expensive nature and income inequality very frequently here).
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