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Old 02-15-2014, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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I am not sure its 1 in 4 but I read 74% although that is still bad.

This is from Science Daily:

For example, only 74 percent of those queried knew that Earth revolved around the sun, while fewer than half (48 percent) knew that human beings developed from earlier species of animals.

The link: Survey: Americans struggle with science; respect scientists -- ScienceDaily

 
Old 02-15-2014, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Idaho
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To be fair, it was community college. That's a representation of the lowest quality college students... not the entire population of college students.
The type of college/university is irrelevant. It is an indictment of primary and secondary education in this country . . . or at least in the area where I am. These are all high school graduates.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised. On one dating web site that I read, one of the questions ask which is larger, the sun or the earth. You wouldn't believe how many women say the earth is larger. Sheech.
 
Old 02-15-2014, 02:04 PM
 
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Why should kids going to a community college be less educated than ones that attend a private college.
Most came from the public school system and can't afford state or private universities..
The idea that everyone who attends the same school comes out with the same level of education is absurd. Every school, whether private or public, will have graduates that are highly educated and graduates that are hardly educated.

There are many factors of why this is the case. Some children study, others don't. Some parents are supportive while others aren't. Some students have learning disabilities, others don't. Bush's no-child-left-behind resulted in pushing through uneducated students.

Most students who attend public and private universities went to a public school system. Money is not a problem in higher academia. Hard work lands you a subsidized education at the top quality universities.
 
Old 02-15-2014, 02:10 PM
 
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The type of college/university is irrelevant. It is an indictment of primary and secondary education in this country . . . or at least in the area where I am. These are all high school graduates.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised. On one dating web site that I read, one of the questions ask which is larger, the sun or the earth. You wouldn't believe how many women say the earth is larger. Sheech.
High school graduates range from genius to stupid... even within the same school system. You're sampling a students at a community college. Community college represents high school graduates overwhelmingly closer to the stupid range (below average). To get a meaningful representation of the population, you would need to sample college students at all different types of colleges. Not just the lowest tier.

Regarding the dating site... you have to consider that it's a dating site. A site that targets individuals that have been rejected in real life. It's not representative of the entire population.

The NSF study referred to in the article, however, is a much wider sampling that better represents the population than your community college students and people on a particular dating site.

Sigh... now I remember what it was like when I used to teach statistics. Apparently, it's something that is not taught in high school.
 
Old 02-15-2014, 03:36 PM
 
Location: USA
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The idea that everyone who attends the same school comes out with the same level of education is absurd. Every school, whether private or public, will have graduates that are highly educated and graduates that are hardly educated.

There are many factors of why this is the case. Some children study, others don't. Some parents are supportive while others aren't. Some students have learning disabilities, others don't. Bush's no-child-left-behind resulted in pushing through uneducated students.

Most students who attend public and private universities went to a public school system. Money is not a problem in higher academia. Hard work lands you a subsidized education at the top quality universities.
You're the one who lumped all those community college students into one batch and did someone actually post that everyone who attends the same school comes out with the same level of education? It's nice that stupidity has an apologist, although without portfolio. To blame Bush for the failings of our public schools is absurd. It goes back much farther than any Bush. It's a nonpartisan problem and ludicrous to blame it on a president, although if the current man in D. C. were in question, I say he hasn't helped. LOL
Back in the olden days when I was in high school, everyone graduated.

You've told off several who have posted in this thread. They happen to have interesting opinions, which are as important as yours and perhaps more so.
 
Old 02-15-2014, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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I guess those Jimmy Dean Sausage Breakfast commercials aren't doing the job of educating the masses.
 
Old 02-15-2014, 04:47 PM
 
Location: PNW, CPSouth, JacksonHole, Southampton
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Yet I bet ALL of them, on a multiple choice quiz, when asked, "Who was the most important person who ever lived.", would check the correct box - beside 'The Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King, Junior'.

Educators have to prioritize, in accordance with the values gifted upon us by the Frankfurt School. They have little time for irrelevancies like the shape of the so-called "Earth". Correct ideology is much more important than something as arcane and useless as the notion of "Planets in the Universe".
 
Old 02-15-2014, 05:07 PM
 
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Dear Science Communication Professionals: We have a problem.

The National Science Foundation (NSF) delivered news of a pretty shocking poll result: around one in four Americans (yes, that's 25 percent) are unaware that the Earth orbits the sun. Let’s repeat that: One in four Americans — that represents one quarter of the population — when asked probably the most basic question in science (except, perhaps, “Is the Earth flat?” Hint: No.), got the answer incorrect. Suddenly I realized why the Nye vs. Ham debate was so popular.


1 in 4 Americans Don't Know Earth Orbits the Sun. Yes, Really. : Discovery News
This information is taught in school, it's in books, it's been noted on science programs on TV, etc. People don't know these things because they choose not to know. We can't force people to gain and retain knowledge.
 
Old 02-15-2014, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Kennedy Heights, Ohio. USA
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Yet I bet ALL of them, on a multiple choice quiz, when asked, "Who was the most important person who ever lived.", would check the correct box - beside 'The Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King, Junior'.

Educators have to prioritize, in accordance with the values gifted upon us by the Frankfurt School. They have little time for irrelevancies like the shape of the so-called "Earth". Correct ideology is much more important than something as arcane and useless as the notion of "Planets in the Universe".
Here we go with the subtle racist stereotyping along with the belief paraded by sources hostile to public education (for profit education lobby) that the US educational system is controlled by leftists more concerned about instilling socialist ideology than teaching math and science.

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Old 02-15-2014, 06:01 PM
 
Location: classified
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So in other words roughly 25% of American's are idiots.
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