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Old 01-04-2015, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Midwest/South
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Will/Does Bellevue have a better downtown than Seattle? Just when you thought Lincoln Square and Bellevue Square couldn't get any bigger or better. It will be. This is exciting to see. What do you think?

Construction has started... see site plans & renderings here:
Bellevue Square Expansion | Bellevue Square Expansion
Lincoln Square Expansion | Lincoln Square Expansion
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Old 01-04-2015, 07:06 PM
 
Location: PNW
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Will/Does Bellevue have a better downtown than Seattle? Just when you thought Lincoln Square and Bellevue Square couldn't get any bigger or better. It will be. This is exciting to see. What do you think?

Construction has started... see site plans & renderings here:
Bellevue Square Expansion | Bellevue Square Expansion
Lincoln Square Expansion | Lincoln Square Expansion
No and No, granted Bellevue has an amazing downtown for it's size but Seattle is in another league. Downtown Seattle is one of the Top 6 downtowns in america. Bellevue lacks the character of a true urban core, seems too planned. But I enjoy visiting both! Downtown Bellevue definitely will be top 8 on the West coast!
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Old 01-04-2015, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Midwest/South
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No and No, granted Bellevue has an amazing downtown for it's size but Seattle is in another league. Downtown Seattle is one of the Top 6 downtowns in america. Bellevue lacks the character of a true urban core, seems too planned. But I enjoy visiting both! Downtown Bellevue definitely will be top 8 on the West coast!
Character? You mean old. Roads laid out without modern instruments & planning. LOL. Size doesn't matter....
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Old 01-04-2015, 08:06 PM
 
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Will/Does Bellevue have a better downtown than Seattle? Just when you thought Lincoln Square and Bellevue Square couldn't get any bigger or better. It will be. This is exciting to see. What do you think?

Construction has started... see site plans & renderings here:
Bellevue Square Expansion | Bellevue Square Expansion
Lincoln Square Expansion | Lincoln Square Expansion
Why do you think that this puts Bellevue in Seattle's league as the downtown of a major metropolis?
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Old 01-04-2015, 08:19 PM
 
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Lincoln Center was sitting unfinished and vacant for a large portion of it's life.
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Old 01-04-2015, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Independent Republic of Ballard
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If malls are your thing. When I go to a mall, the first thing I want to do is...leave.
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Old 01-04-2015, 08:30 PM
 
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Lincoln Center was sitting unfinished and vacant for a large portion of it's life.
I'm glad that they're finally finishing it. I'm just unclear on which metrics would show that Seattle and Bellevue, or even Downtown Seattle and Downtown Bellevue are comparable.

Edit: This thread pretty much answers my question: Best Seattle-Area Malls/Shopping Centers

Yes, if your criteria is malls, than Bellevue totally crushes Seattle. I would argue that evaluating the worth of downtowns based on shopping centers is kind of like evaluating people based on their middle name.

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Old 01-04-2015, 08:39 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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Bellevue lacks one thing that the downtown Seattle (Westlake area) has, homeless people and drugs. I work in the are and walk through there twice a day, I often hear summer tourists and cruise passengers talking about going over to Bellevue, and limiting their Seattle dollars to the Pike Place Market. I suspect that Bellevue will start marketing their shopping overseas to attract more of the tourism away from Seattle. That's potential for 895,000 tourists from cruise alone. I'm not a fan of malls (or shopping at all) but Kemper Freeman seems to know what he's doing, unlike Seattle.
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Old 01-04-2015, 08:51 PM
 
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Bellevue lacks one thing that the downtown Seattle (Westlake area) has, homeless people and drugs. I work in the are and walk through there twice a day, I often hear summer tourists and cruise passengers talking about going over to Bellevue, and limiting their Seattle dollars to the Pike Place Market. I suspect that Bellevue will start marketing their shopping overseas to attract more of the tourism away from Seattle. That's potential for 895,000 tourists from cruise alone. I'm not a fan of malls (or shopping at all) but Kemper Freeman seems to know what he's doing, unlike Seattle.
Sure, because Bellevue is a exclusive, classist, racist, xenophobic place. If you want an upscale, yuppified, gentrified simulacrum of an actual city, Bellevue has you covered. It's not just homeless people that Bellevue excludes by its very nature, it's Latinos, African-Americans, and working class people.

I'm not surprised that the kind of people who take cruises want to head over to Bellevue. They're not interested in actually interacting with the places they visit. If they were, they wouldn't be on a cruise ship. They want a sanitized, Disney-fied version of reality. I do agree with you that Bellevue is ready and waiting to make that happen.

It's not like the homelessness problem is unique to Seattle, either. Every major West Coast city has endemic homelessness. It's an American cultural trope to go west. Except that once you get to Portland, Vancouver, Seattle SF, LA, or San Diego, you run out of west.
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Old 01-04-2015, 09:01 PM
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Seattle has a working waterfront and rich colorful history, something that Bellevue just doesn't have at all. Bellevue is generica America. Nothing wrong with that and I get why some people prefer the scrubbed suburban faux-urban experience (especially perhaps the cruise ship types.) I personally don't, though I do go to Bellevue for the Container Store. There is simply a richness and sensuousness to Seattle or similar cities with their multilayered pasts that I really love and I don't mind the grit that goes along with that.
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