Growth relief is on the way! (Seattle, Issaquah: 2015, apartments, home)

[redfusion]

Looks like the next booms are in Texas with Austin leading the way. Seattle is way down at #15. Growth forecast for 2040.

http://www.bizjournals.com/bizjourna...tionshome.html

http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/n...8-percent.html

[CrazyDonkey]

You might want to make clear that the article is talking about population growth (not economic growth) in metropolitan areas (not cities proper).

Population growth in the Seattle metropolitan area is hampered by geography, transportation infrastructure, and density NIMBYism. While ST3 is expensive, we're playing catch-up. At which point slowing pop. growth crimps economic growth remains to be seen - as it is, the hottest job markets simply fill skill/expertise deficits by importing it from around the nation/world, pushing those with less much further out or into downsized/alternative housing options (roomshares, micro-apartments, apodments, mother-in-laws, etc.).

I agree that slackening population growth could be a good thing. On the other hand, it could just indicate we've maxed out on density.

[fnh]

As a resident of both Houston (Texas) and Seattle, let me say that Texas has nothing to lose by a swelling population while Seattle has so much. Let Texas have the population growth, I wouldn't mind Seattle's to contract.

[Hemlock140]

This reminds me of the light rail not reaching Issaquah, where I could use it until 2041 at age 91. Probably won't be still commuting to Seattle then, and probably won't care much about population growth there. Right now, we have the most construction cranes of any city in the US.

Seattle skyline is tops in construction cranes

[redfusion]

This is not unique to seattle and most major cities are experiencing growth. I see a lot of OMG seattle is growing out of controll posts but it is just not the case. Yea seattle's population is growing but really it is not that bad given the census data.

Originally Posted by CrazyDonkey

You might want to make clear that the article is talking about population growth (not economic growth) in metropolitan areas (not cities proper).

Population growth in the Seattle metropolitan area is hampered by geography, transportation infrastructure, and density NIMBYism. While ST3 is expensive, we're playing catch-up. At which point slowing pop. growth crimps economic growth remains to be seen - as it is, the hottest job markets simply fill skill/expertise deficits by importing it from around the nation/world, pushing those with less much further out or into downsized/alternative housing options (roomshares, micro-apartments, apodments, mother-in-laws, etc.).

I agree that slackening population growth could be a good thing. On the other hand, it could just indicate we've maxed out on density.

[CrazyDonkey]

Originally Posted by redfusion

This is not unique to seattle and most major cities are experiencing growth. I see a lot of OMG seattle is growing out of controll posts but it is just not the case. Yea seattle's population is growing but really it is not that bad given the census data.

Once again, need to distinguish between cities and metropolitan areas. It is Seattle, proper, that is seeing major population growth, especially in its inner neighborhoods. Could take a tech crash or a global recession to slow it down.

[GatsbyGatz]

Originally Posted by CrazyDonkey

Once again, need to distinguish between cities and metropolitan areas. It is Seattle, proper, that is seeing major population growth, especially in its inner neighborhoods. Could take a tech crash or a global recession to slow it down.

If Amazon decided next year that it was bleeding too much money and wanted to cut the slack from its company, you can definitely expect Seattle's growth to slow down.

[Seacove]

Originally Posted by redfusion

This is not unique to seattle and most major cities are experiencing growth. I see a lot of OMG seattle is growing out of controll posts but it is just not the case. Yea seattle's population is growing but really it is not that bad given the census data.

What are you basing your theory on? Seattle is definitely growing very fast. Do you live here? Have you lived here?

Seattle and its surrounding counties added 86,320 new residents between April 2015 and 2016, marking the region’s biggest population gain this century, fueled in large part by the region’s technology industry.

In other words, an average of 236 people are moving to the Seattle area each day

Seattle region's population growing at historic pace, making biggest annual gain in a century - GeekWire

You reference the Census and what I find there is this:

U.S. Census: Seattle now fourth for growth among 50 biggest U.S. cities | The Seattle Times

How about traffic?

Study: Traffic in Seattle still horrible, ranks 2nd-worst in U.S. for evening rush hour congestion - GeekWire

How about housing prices?

Seattle-area home prices surge to new high | The Seattle Times

Originally Posted by fnh

As a resident of both Houston (Texas) and Seattle, let me say that Texas has nothing to lose by a swelling population while Seattle has so much. Let Texas have the population growth, I wouldn't mind Seattle's to contract.

Totally agree. Seattle is a beautiful place where this population growth can only hurt it. There's healthy growth and there's insanity. While weather helps us and we need to keep reminding people of the rain, the increasing housing costs might also help slow growth.

[87112]

It will never stop growing, Mexico City proper and Seattle proper will be same population in about 5 years. A wall might be needed to keep the world away.

[redfusion]

huh, I'm not trying to theorize anything. did you even read the article before forcing your own info? The forecast is for 2040 based on 2015 ACS data.

ACS has not released 2016 data. no idea what estimates seattle times or geekwire are using. maybe the number of cranes, traffic jams, and housing prices?

anywho, believe what you want to belieive.

Originally Posted by Seacove

What are you basing your theory on? Seattle is definitely growing very fast. Do you live here? Have you lived here?

Seattle and its surrounding counties added 86,320 new residents between April 2015 and 2016, marking the region’s biggest population gain this century, fueled in large part by the region’s technology industry.

In other words, an average of 236 people are moving to the Seattle area each day

Seattle region's population growing at historic pace, making biggest annual gain in a century - GeekWire

You reference the Census and what I find there is this:

U.S. Census: Seattle now fourth for growth among 50 biggest U.S. cities | The Seattle Times

How about traffic?

Study: Traffic in Seattle still horrible, ranks 2nd-worst in U.S. for evening rush hour congestion - GeekWire

How about housing prices?

Seattle-area home prices surge to new high | The Seattle Times



Totally agree. Seattle is a beautiful place where this population growth can only hurt it. There's healthy growth and there's insanity. While weather helps us and we need to keep reminding people of the rain, the increasing housing costs might also help slow growth.