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Old 10-02-2021, 06:57 PM
 
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“Also, while the structures of molnupavir and ivermectin differ, they're both basic protease inhibitors, just like the forthcoming Pfizer pill. What makes them more "safe and effective" than ivermectin is that they'll make more money.”

I’m happy to read any double blind clinical trial with enough power to show the effectiveness of Ivermectin. I believe some are under way. I don’t reject any drug, I just need scientific evidence, published in a reputable journal. Got any for Ivermectin?

Or is it just that you are suspicious, which again, isn’t bad, but ultimately using the drug requires evidence.
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Old 10-02-2021, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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Young Seattle resident's obituary:

https://mobile.twitter.com/ke11ybend...40365788528645

https://obits.oregonlive.com/us/obit...?pid=200278331

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Old 10-03-2021, 02:07 AM
 
Location: West Seattle
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I am sorry for her and her family.

But COVID-19 vaccine-induced thrombotic thrombocytopenia is extremely rare. Since she had no underlying health conditions but still succumbed to this condition, research is needed on what genetic variants might predispose someone to this reaction.
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Old 10-07-2021, 09:15 AM
 
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They didn't eradicate polio and smallpox with eating veggies and jogging.

Just be glad that this isn't smallpox.

I cringe to think about what would happen if these anti science anti vax types were loose in the era of smallpox.
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Old 10-07-2021, 09:28 AM
 
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This is going to be an ongoing drain on the economy.

Not to mention our health care system.

And our foster care system. (Approx 120K U.S. children have become parentlless due to covid. Yet I keep hearing how covid doesn't affect young children because some people can't think longer than the length of their own nose).

I've read more than enough obits now of anti masker/anti vaxxers who apparently don't have insurance after long hospital stays due to covid, then death. Who is going to pay for all that? Every single one seems to be accompanied by a GoFundMe campaign. Obviously, they cannot pay their bill and will have to rely on the public (public begging) or government (medicaid) .... I thought they hated both pan-handlers and sociallsm.
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Old 10-12-2021, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Seattle area
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I can't believe NYT posted this.

An unvaccinated child is at less risk of serious Covid illness than a vaccinated 70-year-old.
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Old 10-12-2021, 05:04 PM
 
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Why not? They're one of the premier sources of news in the entire world. They print excellent, detailed and informative articles.

This is the NEW. YORK. TIMES!!! The best journalists in the US and the world are honored and thrilled if they get a job there.

I'm not even a journalist and if I was able to work for them I would seriously consider it... it'd be a prestige position with the highest of standards.

By the way, for those still interested in making decisions based on actual data, please see the graph in the article that shows just how much greater the risk is if you are unvaccinated. The difference starts to get significant (as I can best tell without 95% Confidence Intervals) from age cohorts 12-15 and up.

Added points that these data are from King County, WA (the next graph is from England, so also trustworthy data), which "releases some of the country’s most detailed Covid data". Kudos to our local health officials who have done an extremely hard job extremely well.

It also gives me more evidence that there'd be a significant benefit to me if I got the booster... but I'll have to wait to see more data on that issue, for my age and risk group, contrasted with any potential risk of negative side effects.
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Old 10-12-2021, 05:38 PM
 
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“Also, while the structures of molnupavir and ivermectin differ, they're both basic protease inhibitors, just like the forthcoming Pfizer pill. What makes them more "safe and effective" than ivermectin is that they'll make more money.”

I’m happy to read any double blind clinical trial with enough power to show the effectiveness of Ivermectin. I believe some are under way. I don’t reject any drug, I just need scientific evidence, published in a reputable journal. Got any for Ivermectin?

Or is it just that you are suspicious, which again, isn’t bad, but ultimately using the drug requires evidence.
I heard crickets on this one so I did a quick and easy Google Scholar search. Disappointing. I'd be very happy to see decent evidence that Ivermectin had a positive effect but most articles reviewing all the studies pointed out their flawed design or low power and thus lack of evidence to date. Still, there are more and better studies underway, so hopefully we will get a definitive answer at that point.

Until then, you can take it, I suppose, with a prescription, but there's no telling if it would help.
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Old 10-13-2021, 08:01 PM
 
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Not very wise. In other news, pharmacies in Seattle can prescribe meds now, including monoclonal antibodies. Think they're going to be ramping up. Learned about it on [url]https://www.scripted.co[/url]
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