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I used to buy gas at $0.27, per gallon. I haven't seen gas go down to near that once.
I can recall buying penny candy and getting 2 pieces for a cent. Ain't seen that since.
I can recall when a silver dollar was the last vestiage of money, and still have a as worthless Silver Certificate Note. Govt broke that promise in 1958, so the last note was made in 57'.
The only real thing that changed is the dollar dropped to be where it is which is worthless.
By rights righ now a loaf of bread is worth around 78 bucks....., or 2 weeks ago when a Fedral Reserve note was still worth 1 cents worth of silver. 78 notes = 78 cents and what a loaf of bread should be, but it isn't.
Gas would be about 12.5 cents a gallon a great deal, 2 weeks ago.
The dollar just has become worthless, and can be and has been printed way too much.
SUNOC Gas could print coupons that might be worth more. They did once.
In the "Collapse" thread, I asked 3 others like you to provide us with some evidence to support their opinion that there wasn't going to be any kind of collapse. Care to guess who left the thread then?
As I recall, in that thread you showed up late, after the other trolls were MIA, and said "nothing's going to happen." So show us something other than denial and a complete ignorance of recent economic and financial news. We'll wait right here while you look for it.
Although you were not responding to me, and regardless of the merits or demerits of our laywer friend's OP, logically it doesn't make sense to ask for proof, or evidence, that something is not going to happen. It's like asking someone to prove he doesn't beat his wife. You can't prove a negative, so don't ask him to.
By the way, why is it that lawyers can swim safely in shark-infested waters? Professional courtesy.
While I agree in concept, I think the idea that we are not walking down a path strewn with roses should be pretty clear except to the most stalwartly arrogant in our sandcastle. It's like me placing my hand on an anvil and swinging a sledgehammer down toward it because I "can't prove" that it's going crush my hand when it reaches its mark. That kind of proof, I don't need.
Truly, it's not about proof anyway. It's about probability. If I play Russian roulette, nobody can prove to me that I won't blow my head off on any given spin of the cylinder. Nobody can prove that I will either. But you tell me: odds are that what is going to happen sooner or later?
Although you were not responding to me, and regardless of the merits or demerits of our laywer friend's OP, logically it doesn't make sense to ask for proof, or evidence, that something is not going to happen. It's like asking someone to prove he doesn't beat his wife. You can't prove a negative, so don't ask him to.
By the way, why is it that lawyers can swim safely in shark-infested waters? Professional courtesy.
Heh, I always like a good lawyer joke.
I wasn't expecting anyone to prove anything, just looking for some charts or forecasts from some financial analysts *with a good track record* that give the doubtors some reason to believe we aren't headed for a monetary collapse. I haven't seen any recently. The MSM still has some talking heads pretending everything will be ok, but they have a long record of being wrong about where the economy was headed.
logically it doesn't make sense to ask for proof, or evidence, that something is not going to happen. It's like asking someone to prove he doesn't beat his wife. You can't prove a negative, so don't ask him to.
We disagree on what the null hypothesis is in this situation. Regardless, his intent was not to convince or engage, but to pleasure himself.
I think we might be very much surprised about who (on and off forum) has at least prepared for an economic downturn and possibly commodity shortages or inflationary price spikes in addition to natural disasters with our food and basics stockpiles. Many of us "preppers" are very responsible people that hold responsible or status positions in our communities.
In fact, if you get right down to it, the preppers are doing their patriotic duty. The federal government has been advertising often enough lately (on those wide-screen HDTVs) about preparedness because they know that they lack the ability to respond even marginally, especially in the case of a systemic breakdown. Shoot, they couldn't even respond (in a reasonable period of prosperity) effectively in the aftermath of a devastating regional hurricane.
Anyone with eyes and half a brain that observed the Katrina debacle understands that in the case of a breakdown, no matter what it's cause, you are on your own for a period of time. If people wish to take their chances being in line at one "mart" or another trying to stock up on basics directly before or during a catastrophic event then that's their business. As for me and my household, we don't cotton to being dependent on anyone or want to be herded like cattle into a shelter that may be less than safe, losing our autonomy and ability to act on our own behalf because we lacked the foresight and judgement to plan ahead for bumps in the road.
Unfortunately the talk about zombies and the like IMO is equal to the naysayers and "government plants" for driving us all into "loony land" and I don't participate in those conversations, joke or not, to avoid demeaning the subject matter in general.
Although you were not responding to me, and regardless of the merits or demerits of our laywer friend's OP, logically it doesn't make sense to ask for proof, or evidence, that something is not going to happen. It's like asking someone to prove he doesn't beat his wife. You can't prove a negative, so don't ask him to.
Actually, my friend, one CAN prove a negative by proving a mutually exclusive positive. For example, one can prove that I WASN'T in Malibu California at 10AM yesterday by proving that I WAS somewhere else at 10AM yesterday.
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