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Old 08-19-2015, 01:26 PM
 
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Be it a Carrington event or EMP ,the disruption of electrical servers will be extensive ,especially because so few people know much about repairing electronics .
The ignorance of this society is appalling when it comes to the things we use every day , sure we can find you tube videos for fixing things but if that's gone your sunk.
I worked as a mechanic all my life, more on machinery than cars.
I remember the days of Heath kits and radio shack kits and building things .
People are too impatient now days and won't take the time to learn how things work .
So I expect that if the repairs are left to only those that know the business well enough, it will b e very long time before things are moving again.
What you might not realize is the electronics and components still on the shelves will be fried as well.
So if there is no spare parts put in faraday cage there are no spare parts.
The people who worked on radio shack kits in the 80s and 90s are the equivalent of the people today who tinker with the Arduino, Raspberry Pi and 3D printing. Look into those communities, they are HUGE! Everything from automating your whole garden (yes, automated sensing of watering needs, automated watering based on those needs, weeding etc.) to robotics to.... Whole new ball game - just because it passed you by, doesn't mean it ain't there. And yes, all of these are small enough to power with solar panels. 3D printing allows you to produce custom parts, replicate things etc. Whole new level of self-sufficiency.
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Old 08-19-2015, 01:30 PM
 
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Well, folks, there you have it! Anything that happens is "likely" to be "localized" and can be dealt with "by the authorities". And if "the authorities" are off dealing with another "localized" event, well...you wouldn't mind just waiting a little while now, would you? After all, they could "screw it up", but "generally" they do better than that!

And as for you renegades who dislike letting "the authorities" handle the important matters in your lives , you need an attitude adjustment! You need to realize who's really in change of this country...and it ain't YOU! This business of trying to manage your own affairs as you see fit, only leads to stubborn independence that's dangerous and may even interfere with what "the authorities" are trying to accomplish for the greater good. You're a threat to society!
You are not a threat but being aggressive about everyone else being stupid because you don't trust authorities is well, stupid on your part.

So far I want to see someone actually contribute something meaningful to this discussion. One person said that they are storing 60,000 gallons of diesel. Obviously not practical or prudent.

Someone else said that they own acres, use wood for heating etc. Well, obviously doesn't scale. There are 300 million Americans, if they all went to chop wood and own huge acreages, we would run out of forest and land pretty quickly.

It is just silly, in my humble opinion, to **** down on the city unwashed masses for not having the land in the forest to be self-sufficient on but when they start coming to your neck of the woods and buying up the acreage, you hate them with passion.

Someone else here keeps quoting Lenin and accusing everyone who doesn't agree with them as being communist. Well, who's quoting Lenin? I grew up in socialism and I couldn't quote you one line of Lenin's . Maybe the communist is the person who knows all Lenin's quotes?

In the same breath this person talks about "eco-nazis" and complains about being offended back, he talks bad about the government after spending years being fed and housed byu the government and wearing the uniform. Doesn't exactly land credence to the "cause" now, does it?

Solar flares? EMPs? Where is this stuff? Have I been living on some other planet?

Anyway, what have YOU done to insulate yourself from possible scenarios and what are those scenarios?
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Old 08-19-2015, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Backwoods of Maine
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good one.

The demonization of self-reliance is becoming increasingly hostile.
Apparently, we have a contingent of trolls on this board. I can't see most of 'em. I 'ignored' 'em out for my own peace and sanity. It's not only (apparently) hostile, but it's getting more strident, as they are less and less able to force others to see their viewpoint, and unable to overcome the 'ignore' system on CD.

It's beyond me why anyone would hang out on this board when they see no sense in prepping.
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Old 08-19-2015, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Early America
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Apparently, we have a contingent of trolls on this board. I can't see most of 'em. I 'ignored' 'em out for my own peace and sanity. It's not only (apparently) hostile, but it's getting more strident, as they are less and less able to force others to see their viewpoint, and unable to overcome the 'ignore' system on CD.

It's beyond me why anyone would hang out on this board when they see no sense in prepping.
Oh, in that case, let me catch you up a little so you can chuckle. One troll is demanding that posters here provide individual customized solutions for 300 million Americans. Or else! The antithesis to self-reliance and self-sufficiency.

This is coming out of one side of his face while the other side demands that everyone stop worrying about others.

Then he talks about his indoctrination...er, upbringing, in socialism. As if we hadn't detected this since it comes through loud and clear in roughly 8 out of 10 of his posts.

SMH
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Old 08-19-2015, 02:27 PM
 
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Apparently, we have a contingent of trolls on this board. I can't see most of 'em. I 'ignored' 'em out for my own peace and sanity. It's not only (apparently) hostile, but it's getting more strident, as they are less and less able to force others to see their viewpoint, and unable to overcome the 'ignore' system on CD.

It's beyond me why anyone would hang out on this board when they see no sense in prepping.
The name of this board is SELF-SUFFICIENCY and prepping. Many people like to grow their own food or generate their own energy WITHOUT the crazy Agenda 21 stuff or doomsday porn some people try to push on others?
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Old 08-19-2015, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Backwoods of Maine
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Oh, in that case, let me catch you up a little so you can chuckle. One troll is demanding that posters here provide individual customized solutions for 300 million Americans. Or else! The antithesis to self-reliance and self-sufficiency.

This is coming out of one side of his face while the other side demands that everyone stop worrying about others.

Then he talks about his indoctrination...er, upbringing, in socialism. As if we hadn't detected this since it comes through loud and clear in roughly 8 out of 10 of his posts.

SMH
Thanks...but nothin' new or unusual about that!

That's what the 'ignore' is for - so I can converse with others, without being distracted by nonsense!
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Old 08-19-2015, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Where the mountains touch the sky
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Thanks...but nothin' new or unusual about that!

That's what the 'ignore' is for - so I can converse with others, without being distracted by nonsense!
Yeah, that Ignore feature sure makes these boards more interesting to read without all the vitriol and hyperbole.
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Old 08-19-2015, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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This thread is simply too stupid to be true. There is no one, single world wide power grid. In fact, there isn't one single power grid for the US. Consequently, only a massive world-wide catastrophe like nuclear war or a massive meteorite collision could take down power all over the world and keep it down for a significant amount of time.

Furthermore, the electrical grid does not control power production; individual companies, and in some instances, individuals, produce power that is fed into the grid and also taken out of it. That's why John Doe who invests in solar panels or a wind turbine can sell his excess power yet can draw power from the local electric utility if he needs it. The power grid is necessary for transmitting power over long distances and to balance supply and demand over large areas, but it's NOT necessary for the generation of power. Local utility companies/municipal power co-ops can generate and transmit power to their local users without the grid if they needed to do that.

Individuals, companies, and municipalities have been producing and transmitting electrical power for more than 120 years. The technical knowledge is widespread and easily available. Short of some massive physical calamity, permanent or even long-term loss of electrical power over large areas of the US is about as likely to happen as a Zombie Apocalypse.

Furthermore, contrary to what you doomsters think, people are resilient, especially people who don't share your bunker mentality. Y'all go run and hide in your compounds in the middle of no where and chomp your MREs when the power goes down. The rest of us will get to work on getting the lights turned back on.
Well you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink!! Would it help if I provided EIA drawings too help you better understand the interconnected electrical grid here in the USA? Would a copy of a State wide power plant black start procedure help you in any fashion? (Although I usually get paid a boatload of money for stuff like that) If you care to travel up North I'd be happy to give you a tour of any number of distributed generation facility's. Perhaps some remedial study on electrical transmission and distribution (two different things as I'm sure you know) with a focus on reactive power/VAR production vs. renewable energy technology would be helpful? I recently did some consulting on these very things and would be happy to pm you a quote for the same.
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Old 08-19-2015, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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Now, what do you have to offer on this topic except a discussion about overpriced 19th century toilet bowls? What are YOU doing to prepare for the possible electricity outages?
Blimey! Your statement is worthy of the bloke . I expect you as an intelligent and educated man to read material before commenting. I've stated twice previously, once in a direct response to you, that pottery toilets didn't arrive until almost 1900. Before that time they were made of steel.

You and the others can have your silly electricity: I'll happily give it up. William Dwight Whitney (1827-1894) published his Sanskrit grammar in 1879. It's still in print without revision. He saw the beginnings of electric lighting and other electrical contraptions, but he never saw a pottery toilet or bidet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Dwight_Whitney
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Old 08-19-2015, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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While it is true that power plant generators are not self-exciting, it doesn't take much of a generator to bring one big dynamo online, and after that, bringing the rest of the system online is straightforward.
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