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Huh? I've never noted Spratt caring about or even having a national reputation. Sanford actually did that more than Graham IMHO. Spratt was what he was- a 90s style Southern Dem. He held on an extra decade with constituent service but he really has not swayed with the wind. His district has moved away from him some and the Rs put up their best candidate during what was already and R wave. He's not like Alex Sanders or John Edwards dems who fashioned and refashioned themselves as more/less lieral/conservative in diferent crowds.
Yeah that didn't come out just as I intended. Allow me to rephrase please.
It seems to me that Spratt spent the last 2 years trying to promote and progress the national democratic party's platform even though it was counter to the wishes of his constituents. In previous years he acted (and more importantly voted) pretty much like the home folks wanted and that probably more than anything allowed him to serve the extra decade.
If you take a look back at how he voted in the past and compare it to the last 2 years it makes no sense. He is a textbook example of what happens when someone drinks deeply from the Kool-Aid.
"But first, Democratic House Majority Whip Rep. James Clyburn (D-SC) also appeared on Fox today where he said, "I believe there was hacking done into that computer." He later added, that because SC used the type of voting machines that have been decertified by so many other states, "maybe somebody wanted machines that were easily hacked into."
Take a look..."
LOl back at ya!
Don't you feel silly voting in 'elections' decided by two guys in Omaha? 'Lu
It has happened before...................... and will again.ddite' at Computer Mag 'Network World' Decries E-Voting in SC, Calls for Paper, Pencil Elections" NEXT STORY »
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If you take a look back at how he voted in the past and compare it to the last 2 years it makes no sense. He is a textbook example of what happens when someone drinks deeply from the Kool-Aid.
From 94-08 he was voting on bills approved by either R majorities or bound for an R president. From 08-10 he was voting on Dem originated bills (and arguably from 2006 forward.)
I don't think he changed as much as what was presented to him became items form a Democratic agenda. Also that district has been moving marginally to the right, newer residents did not have any cross-party allegience to him and in 2010 the electorate as a whole was whiter/older/more male/more Republican. I respect that he voted how he did instead of making some inane attempt at fashioning himself into a Republican-lite like some of the loseing Dems did at the last minute.
To be honest I doubt he would have stayed more than one more term regardless.
Geechie- face facts the Rs did not care who the Dems ran as a candidate. They have had the wind at their back all year and Demint is the most established/senior of all the Tea Party backers. He was going to take SC. That D's nominated a nutjob just meant more $ and time to spend elsewhere.
Rs cost themselves at least three races- O'donnell, Buck and Angle. They atleast own up to it being their own voters instead of the Wizard of Oz.
There is no perfect politician. I'll go out on a limb here and say that Akhenaton06 probably does not agree with every decision President Obama makes, but probably supports him overall and most likely will vote for him again.
More than likely, but it was an innocent question that I asked. I wasn't going to argue the answer whether in the affirmative or in the negative. I'm more than certain there are quite a few Demint supporters that agree with that statement, and that's their right.
Geechie- face facts the Rs did not care who the Dems ran as a candidate. They have had the wind at their back all year and Demint is the most established/senior of all the Tea Party backers. He was going to take SC. That D's nominated a nutjob just meant more $ and time to spend elsewhere.
Rs cost themselves at least three races- O'donnell, Buck and Angle. They atleast own up to it being their own voters instead of the Wizard of Oz.
Your theoretical logic is shot down by the real world example of Nixon-McGovern (1972)
A (Very) Brief History of Recent ES&S Failure
The history of failure in e-voting is a long one, but it's littered with failures, specifically, by the ES&S voting system, that company being the nation's currently-largest election vendor. Ludwig said the campaign was familiar with some of their documented failures, but not all.
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My theoretical logic is shot down by nothing. I live in the same ccounty as Vic Rawl and lived through the media/commercial saturation at the end of the primaries. Even I had a big WTF moment when having to ID Rawl & Greene. & sadly I probably would have voted against Rawl if I remembered him and not known who Greene was since Rawl was all around the periphery of a cocaine/adultury scandal among lawyers a couple of years back. Atleast Greene was a laughinstock that burned out quickly and brightly. Rawl would have been a fricking emergency candle for the entire campaign. You really need to be in the state/area to understand the mood. In this instance it was the complete failure of everyone other than Jim Rex & Vince Sheheen to even get their name out for primary voters. It was pretty similar on the R side with the Governor race taking up the most air (and the least know candidate winning in a walk.) The one exception was our Congressional race where once again a lesser known (outside Charleston) candidate won it in a walk. That should tell you something about the SC political climate that the media never will- we are a Republican state and the Rs cleaned house from within with a few exceptions.
My theoretical logic is shot down by nothing. I live in the same ccounty as Vic Rawl and lived through the media/commercial saturation at the end of the primaries. Even I had a big WTF moment when having to ID Rawl & Greene. & sadly I probably would have voted against Rawl if I remembered him and not known who Greene was since Rawl was all around the periphery of a cocaine/adultury scandal among lawyers a couple of years back. Atleast Greene was a laughinstock that burned out quickly and brightly. Rawl would have been a fricking emergency candle for the entire campaign. You really need to be in the state/area to understand the mood. In this instance it was the complete failure of everyone other than Jim Rex & Vince Sheheen to even get their name out for primary voters. It was pretty similar on the R side with the Governor race taking up the most air (and the least know candidate winning in a walk.) The one exception was our Congressional race where once again a lesser known (outside Charleston) candidate won it in a walk. That should tell you something about the SC political climate that the media never will- we are a Republican state and the Rs cleaned house from within with a few exceptions.
Your logic was that because Demint was assured of a win no matter who they ran against him (complete agreement there), that there was no reason to front a pony like Mr. Greene.
This is wrong for three reasons (real world):
1. Nixon was gonna win v McGovern back in 1972. Yet, CREEP (always loved that name) used its dirty tricks- money laundering, threats of IRA Audits, break-ins- to get an even better result.
Cost Dickster the Trickster his job in the long run, but............
2. Running Greene could be used as a campaign issue nationwide, as a friendly media never reported the scam of iVotronics, but surely did let everyone know about the joke that was Mr. Alvin Greene.
3. SC's politics- some of the dirtiest in the nation- shows other instances (on both sides) where a similiar ruse has been used.
"But first, Democratic House Majority Whip Rep. James Clyburn (D-SC) also appeared on Fox today where he said, "I believe there was hacking done into that computer." He later added, that because SC used the type of voting machines that have been decertified by so many other states, "maybe somebody wanted machines that were easily hacked into."
Take a look..."
LOl back at ya!
Don't you feel silly voting in 'elections' decided by two guys in Omaha? 'Lu
It has happened before...................... and will again.ddite' at Computer Mag 'Network World' Decries E-Voting in SC, Calls for Paper, Pencil Elections" NEXT STORY »
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