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Old 07-09-2015, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Look at this link Here are the 20 lawmakers who voted against removing the Confederate flag | The Battery | Charleston City Paper

Of those who voted against removing the flag, a great % comes from the upstate.


More evidence that the upstate is generally more conservative than other parts of the state.

Just saying.
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Old 07-09-2015, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Btw I noticed two from Lexington. How many reps would you consider "midlands" reps?

When I tell people 2 out X midlands reps voted to keep it up, what is X? I don't know this off the top of my head, sad perhaps. I guess i could just look it up. I personally would not consider Aiken part of the midlands.
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Old 07-09-2015, 12:04 PM
 
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God forbid some people have an opinion different from yours. Let's persecute all those who don't conform to group think!
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Old 07-09-2015, 12:17 PM
 
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God forbid some people have an opinion different from yours. Let's persecute all those who don't conform to group think!
It would just be better if we could transport them back to the 19th century where they would apparently be happier.
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Old 07-09-2015, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Columbia, South Carolina
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God forbid some people have an opinion different from yours. Let's persecute all those who don't conform to group think!
LOL, this guy

You've been on the losing side of history for ages, and at long last, you've lost. I'm sure that doesn't sit well with you, but don't call it persecution. That makes you look silly.
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Old 07-09-2015, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Patrolling The Wasteland
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I am going to leave a quoted comment below, because I think it presents an interesting interpretation of some of the issues associated with all of this. It was posted on another board regarding this debate, and I think some might find it quite interesting:

"Ultimately, this whole thing is essentially predicated upon one thing: if they (White southerners) lose a majority, they are afraid that backlash WILL occur. That is what the whole siege mentality is about. They fear that if anyone else gets into power, that they'll use said power, not to bring about equality, but put nice, God fearing white folks in the reverse of the positions that they've advocated for years. This gnashing of teeth? This is about fear and need for self defense.
They KNOW that they've been jerks for years. And that their jerkiness has been based, partially, on fear that if the tables are reversed, they'll suffer years of the same oppression that they've advocated. Ultimately, this is fear of karma coming around and biting them on the butt, and all the prettified language that goes along with defense of this mess, it is essentially fear that the brown folks are going to come for them, because in their heart of hearts, they know that they deserve it...

And that says far more about themselves. They are afraid that if they lose their position, and slide down the totem pole, that they're going to wind up being targets, because that's what they know that they've done, and damned if they don't feel that EVERYONE ELSE WOULD DO THE SAME THING...

It is a sad, frightened, grubby little hole for the soul to reside in. And I feel sorry for them. I feel sorry for all the pain and fear that they endure, day after day, eroding any real substantive connection to any portion of society that doesn't reflect their own faces and beliefs. Because they lost touch with the real power and message of this nation a long time ago..."

Now, I am not saying I agree with the above, but I think we have reached the point in all of this when we really need to start reflecting on why exactly there is this insistence from one side of the discussion that their opinions and beliefs are being oppressed in all of this now that they are on the losing side. Where was all of this aggrandizement of liberty and equality of opinion when the roles were reversed?
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Old 07-09-2015, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Columbia SC
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Research why the SC state government is set up with a strong legislature and a weak governor. To lazy to look it up? It was to be sure if a black was elected governor that they could not become that strong. Talk about racism.
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Old 07-09-2015, 02:24 PM
 
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Btw I noticed two from Lexington. How many reps would you consider "midlands" reps?

When I tell people 2 out X midlands reps voted to keep it up, what is X? I don't know this off the top of my head, sad perhaps. I guess i could just look it up. I personally would not consider Aiken part of the midlands.
Personally I grew up considering Fairfield, Lexington, Richland, Kershaw, and Sumter Counties as the Midlands. I've seen some throw in Calhoun, Orangeburg, and Saluda in the mix too. So here are legislators who represent districts that are totally/partially in those counties. First, based on the former:

Todd Atwater (R)
Jimmy Bales (D)
Nathan Ballentine (R)
Beth Bernstein (D)
Kenny Bingham (R)
Grady Brown (D)
MaryGail Douglas (D)
Kirkman Finlay III (R)
Laurie Funderburk (D)
Chris Hart (D)
Leon Howard (D)
Chip Huggins (R)
Ralph Kennedy, Jr. (R)
Jay Lucas (R)
Joe McEachern (D)
Mia McLeod (D)
Joe Neal (D)
Russell Ott (D)
Rick Quinn (R)
Robert Ridgeway, III (D)
Todd Rutherford (D)
James Smith, Jr. (D)
Murrell Smith, Jr. (R)
Kit Spires (R)
Mac Toole (R)
David Weeks (D)

If you include Calhoun, Orangeburg, and Saluda you also pick up

Bill Clyburn (D)
Gilda Cobb-Hunter (D)
Jerry Govan, Jr. (D)
Lonnie Hosey (D)

So 26 or 30 representatives depending on which counties you include.
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Old 07-09-2015, 02:25 PM
 
Location: TPA
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We couldnt have said this in one of our 5,000 other flag threads?

Not surprised most came from the Upstate. Actually, does that even surprise anyone?
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Old 07-09-2015, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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It's lawmakers catering to their white constituents. I hate to say that about white people, but I'm one, so I should know.
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