The St. Louis freeze (Grandview, Rolla: transplants, neighborhood, high school)

[MeetMeinSTL]

I'm sure you've heard of the Seattle freeze. Would you say St. Louis culture has a similar problem?

[Jjmars]

I think Seattle tends to be more introverted and St. Louis is more cliquish. Where did you go to high school is much more than small talk. You get the sense it's a way for locals to internally assail you if you didn't grow up within their boundaries.

[MeetMeinSTL]

Originally Posted by Jjmars

I think Seattle tends to be more introverted and St. Louis is more cliquish. Where did you go to high school is much more than small talk. You get the sense it's a way for locals to internally assail you if you didn't grow up within their boundaries.

This makes sense. Yeah I wouldn't describe St. Louis as introverted but I do think the culture has antisocial tendencies.

[elkotronics]

I think Seattle tends to be more introverted and St. Louis is more cliquish. Where did you go to high school is much more than small talk. You get the sense it's a way for locals to internally assail you if you didn't grow up within their boundaries.


Seattle can be introverted and cliquish both. Depends on who you come across. I'm a native Seattleite - I have personal experience with it. Never lived in St. Louis but I have lived in Rolla and now Grandview.

[toosie]

Reminder to please stay on topic in this thread about St Louis. For a Seattle v St Louis discussion, you should move to the City v City fora. Thanks - carry on

[Fishtacos]

Hey, Minnesota transplants: Back off the locals, OK? - StarTribune.com

You can insert many cities, not just Seattle or wherever. The local twin cities newspaper had fun with the topic in Minnesota.

[oneslip]

You need to move to a southern more transient part of the country if you want more openness. St. Louisans can be very friendly and welcoming but as a native I am unaware if it is so closed minded as to not accept someone from another part of the country? I live in the south and can tell you there is a difference in manners, maybe it has something to do with being in the bible belt or just good ol southern charm.

[FrankMiller]

I can start calling strangers "sweetie" if you think that will help.

[Angus215]

Think it depends a lot on the area. Ladue, yes. Balwin or chesterfield not so much. Places with a lot of people who have lived there their whole lives will generally be less open, and money/snobbery makes it worse.

[CoffeeAndBeer]

Originally Posted by Angus215

Think it depends a lot on the area. Ladue, yes. Balwin or chesterfield not so much. Places with a lot of people who have lived there their whole lives will generally be less open, and money/snobbery makes it worse.

generally speaking, it seems like the central corridor from clayton/maplewood/university city inward, as well as big parts of the southside are the most friendly, easy for transplants. it's in this area that you will find the most out of state plates, by far.


chesterfield/west county is probably ok, but can have a silly 50k millionaire attitude with younger people. my office is in creve coeur, and it seems a little more grounded. (downtown)clayton can be straight up snooty, but the area is plugged into the urban core and so there is more mixing of people. the more urban east end of clayton that flows into the city is more of a city-type neighborhood.