10-21-2012, 03:05 AM
Location: St. Pete, FL
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I'm moving to Florida on March 10th, 2013 and driving directly to Daytona Beach. My parents have offered me their condo (for free) so I can make the big move and take my time and not worry too much. I used to live in Daytona 10 years ago, so I am somewhat familiar with it.
But I need to end up permanantly where there is a gay scene, so I don't feel lonely the rest of my life. I have thought about just going to Orlando on the weekends and staying in Daytona (and that is still a possibility), but that would still be a 45 min drive.
Doing almost a year of research, I've been drawn to the Tampa/St. Pete area mostly. I'm a laidback guy. I'm not a fast-paced New Yorker or San Francisco person. I like to do things nice and slow. I'm not the most culturally educated person, so I don't really require museams, art galleries, operas, etc. But the Saturday Market sounds nice. I live in Portland, Oregon right now, so I am well aware of hipsters and culture like that. It would be more up my alley, yes.
But then there's Fort Lauderdale, and I'm thinking that if I'm going to make the move from Oregon to Florida, I should just make FL my ultimate destination, as it seems "the place to be if you're a gay man" type of place. I LOVE the beach, beach bars, restaurants, etc. I'm a server/bartender myself, so all that stuff is right up my alley. But at the same time, I'm not superficial. I'm not fake or pretentious. I'm laidback remember?
There is also the money issue. In Portland I pay 678 for a 1-bedroom and I wouldn't want to pay more than that. I am hoping for 600 or less. I intend on getting a server/bartender position.
Does 600 in Fort Lauderdale get you nothing? I would want to be as close to the beach in BOTH areas as possible. Can I get close in St. Pete?
Should I go from Daytona (which is free) to St. Pete and THEN to Fort Lauderdale after a year or two?
How does St. Pete Beach compare to Fort Lauderdale's beaches?
any advice would be appreciated.
10-21-2012, 05:01 AM
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$600 in Fort Lauderdale will have you in the worst crack town! for $600 you won't be close to any beaches in FL...
Stay in Daytona for free for as long as you can....can't beat that....
Like apples and oranges...from the landscape to the crowds...very different. I love them both but for different reasons.
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How does St. Pete Beach compare to Fort Lauderdale's beaches?
10-21-2012, 07:34 AM
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Free is GOOD!! Take advantage of what your parents are giving you and then you can do a few trips to the areas you are asking about and see it yourself.
10-21-2012, 08:57 AM
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Annie of Oldsmar
Free is GOOD!! Take advantage of what your parents are giving you and then you can do a few trips to the areas you are asking about and see it yourself.
I agree with "free is good." Take advantage of that.
St. Pete will definitely be more "laid back" and definitely WAAAAAAY cheaper than Ft. Lauderdale. The Tampa Bay area is a nice place to live. Ft. Lauderdale will be more fast-paced and expensive. Beaches on gulf side are calm (very few waves) with white sands and sunsets. Ocean side have more waves, darker sand and sunrises.
Good luck!
10-21-2012, 10:21 AM
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algia
$600 in Fort Lauderdale will have you in the worst crack town! for $600 you won't be close to any beaches in FL...
what are the reasons? Why are they different?
I'm going to stay in Daytona Beach when i get there. I'm not exactly sure if I should look for an apartment first or a job first (where i want to live). Cuz if i want to live in St. Pete, that's a 3 hour commute.
or maybe save up enough money in Daytona (which means getting a job there) and then having enough money to move wherever for a little while without freaking out about a job?
this is all very exciting to me, as I'll be moving directly to the beach (like 10ft away from it) in Daytona Beach Shores, and then I can just take my time with everything. But i'd like to avoid some newbie mistakes if I could.
Can 600 get me in any good neighborhood in Fort Lauderdale, even if far away from the beach?
10-21-2012, 10:30 AM
Location: St. Pete, FL
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I agree with "free is good." Take advantage of that.
I'm thinking St. Pete is more up my alley. From the culture that I'm accustomed to, to the sunsets, which I prefer. Huge gay scene, too, if you combine the entire Tampa Bay area.
the thing is...
while in Daytona, should I look for a job first or an apartment in St. Pete first? If a job, that's a 3-hour commute. Or should I get a job in Daytona, save even more money than what i'll bring, and then land an apartment in St. Pete and THEN look for a job?
10-21-2012, 11:02 AM
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$600 bucks is crack town/section 8 pretty much anywhere here, and in Fort Lauderdale is the same....just look on rent.com then take the zip codes and check for crime rates.
Regarding the beaches, everything is different from the crowds to the waves. The Gulf water is like a bath, with little action compared to the East Coast where you have much bigger waves from New Smyrna beach down to Miami.
I think you should live there "free" except utilities for a while, and then take some weekends to check out the places that are priced under $700 (if any)....to get a better idea as to what is in that price range, and what surrounds an area like that. Bar tending is not a career that affords an elevated lifestyle here. If you can escape rent for a while consider yourself lucky, and go to college and get into a money making career, otherwise you'll eventually become miserable once the realities of that income start setting in.
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what are the reasons? Why are they different?
10-23-2012, 04:03 PM
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If you are a laid back guy then St Pete may fit you best. Lauderdale is the big city compared to Daytona and St Pete. Daytona is a rough and tumble kind of place.
There is a growing gay community in St Pete and surrounding areas. Many are involved in new new businesses in the downtown area. Its much more quaint than a regular city.
The beaches are more beautiful here and the sunsets...well they are spectacular.
While you are doing the free thing in Daytona, spend a weekend in St Pete then another in Lauderdale. You will know when you are there what fits best.
About the 600dollar apartment.....it's going to be tough unless you get an efficiency. You can buy a condo and pay about the same.
Good luck
. KimINflorida
Good luck. KimINflorida
10-23-2012, 10:41 PM
Location: St. Pete, FL
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I definitely have concluded St. Pete and the surrounding Tampa Bay area is the right fit for me. But I will explore FL for a weekend.
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Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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