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Old 03-14-2014, 05:14 PM
 
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Does anyone know or have any thoughts on? If the threshold that folks can be paid and not offered overtime is raised to 45-50K what will that do to teachers below that threshold? Will they get paid overtime for grading papers beyond a 40 hour work week? etc etc etc.

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The overtime initiative aims to rewrite rules issued by President George W. Bush in 2004 that set $455 per week as the threshold for what constitutes a white-collar worker for purposes of overtime pay. Employees making more than $455, or about $23,500 a year, must meet other eligibility requirements to be paid overtime.

Obama is also seeking changes to rules that allow employers to exempt workers from the overtime requirement, Harris said.

About 10 million workers might benefit from the rule if it applied to people making less than $50,000 a year, the Economic Policy Institute said.

 
Old 03-14-2014, 05:15 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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No. Even though not true it's assumed that teachers can complete their duties in the regular work day. No one tells them they have to stay to correct papers or do other teacher things.
 
Old 03-14-2014, 05:21 PM
 
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No. Even though not true it's assumed that teachers can complete their duties in the regular work day. No one tells them they have to stay to correct papers or do other teacher things.
Yes, very true which takes us to the next question of what happens when teachers then use the need to be paid overtime as the reason why papers aren't graded in a timely fashion or they are leaving the building as directed after they have been their 8 hours each day. Will it necessitate more planning time in the schedule etc etc or ticked off parents? The law may not allow voluntary overtime without pay much less without time and half pay. It could be interesting to see what administrative law decisions say and if there becomes a teacher or union wanting to test the new regulations if and when the they are implemented with substantially higher thresholds.

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Old 03-14-2014, 06:39 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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I was very curious myself. Since they have sucked up planning time for everything but planning, stated they should never come into a room where the teacher is sitting at their desk, expect teachers to do after school tutoring, and stay late or come early for parent/teacher conferences, they have set it up so teachers have no choice but to work overtime. Maybe they will have to get rid of a lot of the extra work that has little to no impact on actual student learning.
 
Old 03-14-2014, 06:39 PM
 
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Teachers will never be paid overtime because they are salaried, exempt employees. They are considered professionals.

They are paid for the work done, not for the time to do the work.
 
Old 03-14-2014, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Mid South Central TX
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Teachers will never be paid overtime because they are salaried, exempt employees. They are considered professionals.

They are paid for the work done, not for the time to do the work.
Right, but that's what the new overtime rules are going after.
 
Old 03-14-2014, 07:01 PM
 
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Right, but that's what the new overtime rules are going after.
Bada Bing! Previously they were salaried professionals over the threshold if that is raised to $50k.
 
Old 03-14-2014, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I would imagine they will not consider work at home as overtime.
You'd have to put your 50-60 hours in at school.

What teacher is going to want to do that ?

And then they would have to track the hours so exempt will then have to clock in and out just like the hourly paid employees at the schools.
 
Old 03-14-2014, 08:00 PM
 
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I almost started a similar thread as I had been wondering about the potential for overtime. Obviously things like grading papers at home would not qualify, just as checking and responding to email from home does not qualify.

However, as another poster mentioned, what about Back to School night, supervising dances, supervising sporting events, overnight field trips, after school rehearsals, etc.? In my school these are required duties.

Basically, anything that should qualify for comp time would now qualify for overtime?
 
Old 03-15-2014, 03:18 AM
 
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I almost started a similar thread as I had been wondering about the potential for overtime. Obviously things like grading papers at home would not qualify, just as checking and responding to email from home does not qualify.

However, as another poster mentioned, what about Back to School night, supervising dances, supervising sporting events, overnight field trips, after school rehearsals, etc.? In my school these are required duties.

Basically, anything that should qualify for comp time would now qualify for overtime?
Under the law checking and responding to emails is fuzzy area, but if it is required by the employer it does count. Grading papers, however, is not fuzzy, it is no different than writing a weekly report and it would count. Of course, spending extra time grading would still happen even if teachers fall under this law but maybe it would force schools to give teachers back their planning periods.
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