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Old 08-02-2014, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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The premise that private education is valuable enough to charge through the nose for it, but not valuable enough to pay those providing the instruction a competitive wage to do so is always an interesting one.
For the third time, she is paid well to teach where she does. She started at half again what I make now and I've been teaching for 6 years. With all the step/pay freezes I may never make her starting salary before I retire in 12 years. There has been one step increase in the 4 years I've been teaching where I am now and the year I arrived was the year after a pay cut. I know it went cut, freeze, freeze, step, freeze and they're telling us we're frozen for this next year as well. I'm not sure why people are saying she's not paid well. On top of her pay, she can send her children to that school for 20% of the normal tuition.
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Old 08-02-2014, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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That's awesome and all, but for a school that charges twenty grand a year to attend, that's still a massive discrepancy between the purported value of the education obtained, and how much the instructional expertise is valued according to how it's compensated. Saying she makes more than you still isn't saying much, right, in the grand scheme of things? "People," i.e., me, aren't saying she isn't paid "well" (Truth be known, I felt that I was paid "well" in the last private school I worked for, and made only slightly more than you reportedly made at a charter). What I'm saying is that even "decent" pay, for teaching, is a pitiful drop in the bucket compared to what private schools will charge for the benefit of those teachers' instruction. Which is pretty absurd.
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Old 08-02-2014, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Suburbia
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My wife taught in a private pre-K to K Montessori school for ten years. She liked the school, but pay was going nowhere and health benefits were costly. Luckily I had the public district benefits. Our son went with her tuition free. When she left in 2006 she was making $32,000. The public school district gave her credit for ten years and started her on step 11 with a Master's so her salary doubled to about $63,000. Since we both were now teaching for the same district, our healthcare premiums were cut in half.
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Old 08-02-2014, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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That's awesome and all, but for a school that charges twenty grand a year to attend, that's still a massive discrepancy between the purported value of the education obtained, and how much the instructional expertise is valued according to how it's compensated. Saying she makes more than you still isn't saying much, right, in the grand scheme of things? "People," i.e., me, aren't saying she isn't paid "well" (Truth be known, I felt that I was paid "well" in the last private school I worked for, and made only slightly more than you reportedly made at a charter). What I'm saying is that even "decent" pay, for teaching, is a pitiful drop in the bucket compared to what private schools will charge for the benefit of those teachers' instruction. Which is pretty absurd.
The comparison has to be between what teachers at other schools are paid not the cost of the education. There's more to this. Her classes are capped at 18. She has every piece of lab equipment she could ever want. She only teaches 4 classes a day and has two prep periods per day.
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Old 08-02-2014, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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The comparison has to be between what teachers at other schools are paid not the cost of the education. There's more to this. Her classes are capped at 18. She has every piece of lab equipment she could ever want. She only teaches 4 classes a day and has two prep periods per day.
Sounds perfect! She's making bank, and has an ideal instructional situation. You're not getting in on this, why, exactly, if it's such a great deal?
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Old 08-02-2014, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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My wife taught in a private pre-K to K Montessori school for ten years. She liked the school, but pay was going nowhere and health benefits were costly. Luckily I had the public district benefits. Our son went with her tuition free. When she left in 2006 she was making $32,000. The public school district gave her credit for ten years and started her on step 11 with a Master's so her salary doubled to about $63,000. Since we both were now teaching for the same district, our healthcare premiums were cut in half.
Honestly, not factoring in health benefits at all, just straight salary, that's 32k is fairly generous for pre-k programs, where I am.
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Old 08-02-2014, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Suburbia
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Honestly, not factoring in health benefits at all, just straight salary, that's 32k is fairly generous for pre-k programs, where I am.
That was on '06 and not so great in the metro DC area.
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Old 08-02-2014, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Volunteer State
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20-10 years ago:

  • 7 period day
  • 50-minute periods
  • 1 50-minute planning
  • 2-3 preps
  • 2 years of four preps, 2 of which were APChem & APPhys (these years were tough, but I thoroughly enjoyed it considering the AP classes I taught. The others were sweat-hog sciences)
for the last 10 years:


  • 4 period day (traditional block)
  • 1 period of planning
  • 90-minute periods
  • 3 preps (GenChem, APChem, & APPhys)
So I've had both easier and harder schedules. I'd say yours (the OP) was pretty standard.
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Old 08-02-2014, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Paradise
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What's really interesting about the private school pay tuition is how shrill, vocal group that scream about teacher pay and back up their position with how private schools do it better and for less money. Almost every private school in my city charges in excess of $12000 yearly.
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Old 08-02-2014, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Suburbia
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What's really interesting about the private school pay tuition is how shrill, vocal group that scream about teacher pay and back up their position with how private schools do it better and for less money. Almost every private school in my city charges in excess of $12000 yearly.
Our district has one of lower per pupil expenditure rates in the area at $13,472. Arlington County is over $18k.
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