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Originally Posted by phetaroi
In our large system (196 schools and centers), the official title was "clinic aide" (at least at the time). People generally said "the school nurse", but over 20 years there not one of our "clinic aides" had no type of degree in nursing or medicine.
This may help: The School Nurse Scourge | US News
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It seemed to important to you so I asked. I'm told RN.
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Originally Posted by lkb0714
I am glad to hear your daughter is fine.
Just as a reminder you said "Everyone involved should have been fired". Fired from their job because they made a mistake that if a parent had done it, may or may not get a visit from CPS. The equivalent would be if the parent, both parents really, lost custody. No visit, no investigation, no warning, just plain old "fired". Even at hospitals, if a doctor or nurse makes a mistake, as simple as not realizing a bone is broken until it is xrayed, they do not get fired out of hand.
This is another classic example of teachers, nurses, school administrators being held to a higher standard than parents.
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No, it's not. It's the same standard others are held to. The problem is not making a mistake. The problem is in the failure to acknowledge that they made a error and take corrective action to prevent future errors. We didn't go in guns blazing, though perhaps we should have. We simply called the school to point out the error and suggest changing the procedure to be when in doubt, call the parents and let the parents make the decision. That's when the educational immune system kicked into play and we got the run around. Teacher passed the buck to the nurse who passed the buck to the principal who passed the buck to the city who passed it back to the principal. Not once did anyone acknowledge they made a bad decision, nor acknowledge they could change procedures to prevent it in the future. Nothing but buck passing and hiding behind policy. That's why they should have been fired; not because of a mistake but because no one would acknowledge there was a mistake.
Just like in this thread, the discussion has not been about preventing problems; it's been about deflecting responsibility away from educators and whether school nurses are nurses or whether parents would get CPS or what would happen to doctors.
I apologize if I'm getting emotional here, I don't mean to come across how I know this is sounding, but education is something very dear to me. I don't hate teachers; I support them in what they do. I love the times I get to bring things to schools and to classes. But lord have mercy put a bunch of teachers into a school system and it transforms into fortress defending itself against all outsiders. It's common core's fault; it's the government's fault; it lack of funding's fault; it's the student's fault; it's the parents fault. Folks, this isn't about fault; it's about responsibility for the outcome. There is a difference.
Oh, and for the record, in my world mistakes warrant anything from time off without pay to reduction in pay to yes, even being fired.