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Old 07-10-2009, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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Mercy, no, Ivory, after the other thread most of us have your CV memorized.
So you've been a chemist and an engineer. Your husband is, essentially...also an engineer of sorts.
Apparently, your inner circle includes no physicians, midwives, architects, hospital administrators, small business owners. You probably should get out more, meet more people.

By the way, for someone putting in all those hours, you're sure busy on CD.
No, my husband is not an engineer. He's in IT. Kind of the opposite end of the world tech wise, lol. He's a computer programmer.

Lol, Um, there are 168 hours in a week. Take 42 off for sleeping and, let's say 80 working (we'll go with my worst weeks) and I'm left with 46 hours do what I want with. The amount of time I post has nothing to do with the number of hours I work. It's more of a function of the time I spend in front of a computer than anything. When I take a break, it's on a forum. Actual time to read and respond to a post is less than two minutes. I average less than 10 posts per day. Do the math.

And, besides, we're on summer break right now so I only put in about 20 hours a week on school stuff. Did you forget what season it is?
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Old 07-10-2009, 01:22 PM
 
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Mercy, no, Ivory, after the other thread most of us have your CV memorized.
So you've been a chemist and an engineer. Your husband is, essentially...also an engineer of sorts.
Apparently, your inner circle includes no physicians, midwives, architects, hospital administrators, small business owners. You probably should get out more, meet more people.

By the way, for someone putting in all those hours, you're sure busy on CD.

Why don't you spend a week in our world and you can see for yourself how much it is like all of these other ways of making a living? Ivory has worked in both worlds; I think she knows a little more than you do about the difference.
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Old 07-10-2009, 01:36 PM
 
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And, besides, we're on summer break right now so I only put in about 20 hours a week on school stuff. Did you forget what season it is?

No, I just wanted to see you acknowledge that you get summer vacations the rest of the working world does not.
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Old 07-10-2009, 01:46 PM
 
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No, I just wanted to see you acknowledge that you get summer vacations the rest of the working world does not.

You can have a summer break too.

Just get a teaching job
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Old 07-10-2009, 01:53 PM
 
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Why don't you spend a week in our world and you can see for yourself how much it is like all of these other ways of making a living? Ivory has worked in both worlds; I think she knows a little more than you do about the difference.
I've spent many weeks in many worlds. I've worked everything from day laborer to research chemist. The list I gave you before is not all inclusive by any means. And, honestly, I don't see people working 60 hours a week as a matter of routine or taking their work home with them.

There are some, like lawyers who do and professions like air traffic controllers who work long hours but they are well compensated for that. As an engineer, I rarely worked overtime. I never took work home with me. As a production supervisor, I did work OT but I was paid for it. I didn't take work home with me but it sometimes called me at 3:00 AM. I've held many jobs. I've already done my week and then some where you are.

My husband has also held several professions. By far the one with the longest hours was truck driver. He's been a comptroller, accountant, CFO and now IT specialist. Now he did do taxes on the side a few times and then he did work long hours but, again, he was paid for the time he worked.

I also know lots of people in lots of professions from CEO's to line workers who don't work 60 hours a week with any frequency. Really, the only people I know who do are lawyers or teachers.

Here are the stats for my family

My brother is a mechanic and does not
My sister is an administrative assistant and does not
My sister in law is in management and does not
My sister in law is a CEO in a large corporation and does
My brother in law is in retail and does not
My sister in law is a nurse and does not
I used to be an engineer and did not (nor did any of the engineers I worked with or know for that matter).
My husband is in IT and does not.
When my husaband was a CFO, he did when it was crunch time.
When I was in production I did when there were production issues but I was paid for my time.
My brother is a line worker and does not
My sister is a receptionist and does not
My sister in law is a doctor and does not
My sister in law is a medical assistant and does not
My sister in law is an opthamologist and does not
My brother in law is a fireman not sure where he fits as he works 24 hour days but then has two days off in between days worked.
My brother is an auditor, he does when he travels on audits (to get home faster) but he is paid and gets comp time for the OT.

I'm not sure what world you think I need to visit to see this is the norm. It's not the norm here. With the exception of teachers, lawyers and CEO's, I can't think of a profession where it is the norm with any regularity. I just don't see a lot of people having to work long hours and take work home with them.
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Old 07-10-2009, 02:03 PM
 
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You can have a summer break too.

Just get a teaching job

I'm retired, thanks. Summer break is not something I'm particularly envious of.
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Old 07-10-2009, 02:07 PM
 
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Why don't you spend a week in our world and you can see for yourself how much it is like all of these other ways of making a living? Ivory has worked in both worlds; I think she knows a little more than you do about the difference.
JB, frankly, I'd rather remove my entrails with a rusty can opener and feed them to rabid sea otters than work in the public school system. Your mileage, and clearly Ivory's, varies.
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Old 07-10-2009, 02:17 PM
 
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JB, frankly, I'd rather remove my entrails with a rusty can opener and feed them to rabid sea otters than work in the public school system. Your mileage, and clearly Ivory's, varies.

At least you admit it. But the PUBLIC school system is nowhere as bad as you might think. Like a friend of mine who sent their first 3 kids to parochial school and switched their youngest to the public high school I teach at because of a personality conflict..."I had no idea how good things were over there....everyone I know (who mainly send their kids to the parochial school) talks about how horrible ______ HS is"
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Old 07-10-2009, 06:01 PM
 
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I'm retired, thanks. Summer break is not something I'm particularly envious of.
I'd prefer not to have them. It's a bit disconcerting to go from GO, GO, GO to 10 weeks off. I'd rather have a less insane work week and work year round. I really don't like this much time off at once.

When I was in engineering, I had 9 weeks off a year but, with the exception of the week and a half at Christmas, I decided when to take it. That worked well.
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Old 07-10-2009, 06:06 PM
 
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No, I just wanted to see you acknowledge that you get summer vacations the rest of the working world does not.
That's on school stuff. There's still the second job to make ends meet. I get that year round.

I, actually, get less time off as a teacher than I did as an engineer. The difference is it's 40 straight weeks of 60-80 hour work weeks followed by 10 weeks off. When I was an engineer, I worked 45 hours a week and had 9 weeks off a year. Yes, I have 4 more weeks off as a teacher but I've already worked those hours and then some.
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