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Old 11-14-2012, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Y-Town Area
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Texas can legally divide itself into five separate states. Would you support this ?
Here's a short article from 2009.


The Map Room: Texas Divided
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Old 11-14-2012, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Actually, my understanding is they can't - that was a one-off thing perpetuated by urban legend. And why do that? To what advantage?

Quote:
Although the provisions of the Texas Annexation document allowing
for the creation of four additional states are popularly regarded as a
unique curiosity today, they were largely superfluous. Article IV,
Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution already specifically provided for
the formation of new states through the junction or division of
existing states:
"New states may be admitted by the Congress into this union;
but no new states shall be formed or erected within the
jurisdiction of any other state; nor any state be formed by the
junction of two or more states, or parts of states, without the
consent of the legislatures of the states concerned as well as
of the Congress."
Another Texas-related legend holds that the Texans negotiated an
annexation treaty which reserved to them the right to secede from
the Union without the consent of the U.S. Congress, but the terms of
Texas' annexation contain no such provision.
From some additional reading, it appears that the civil war and abolition of slavery pretty much ended the right to split the state. The whole reason was to balance (or counter balance) free and slavery states and there were specific language limiting what areas could be slavery or had to be free.

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Old 11-14-2012, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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I wouldnt care, but I would want the map drawn differently than the one in the article.
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Old 11-14-2012, 02:52 PM
 
Location: USA
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I don't like being lumped in with Austin! But then again that would lead us to be put with the El Norte. EWWWWWWW!
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Old 11-14-2012, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Waterworld
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Id support this more than secession. The secessionists can have Plainland.
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Old 11-14-2012, 03:43 PM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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No.
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:28 PM
 
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For me the answer is no.

I happen to like the idea of ALL of Texas keeping her electoral votes away from the hard core liberal party.

As for secession, any Red state would hate to see Texas leave (unless they joined), because if they did ANY nut job liberal could easily (much easier than now) get voted into the White House assuming the electoral college method redistributes afterwards but keeps the same format. The presidental election would end up being a joke, because whoever won the nomination for being top liberal would get in every time!
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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I'd be all for secession, but only as a whole state. IMHO, that's the only way Texas can make it as a country, without the very strong likelihood of being absorbed. However, I think like minded states like Oklahoma and possibly Kansas may want to come along.
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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No. I think the Union should remain the same as it is today.
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Austin/Houston
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agreed. this country needs to stay united. And all the crybabies who are signing the petition supporting the states secession need to just suck it up that our president will be around for a while longer and go home.

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