The new towers of Texas (Houston, Dallas: high school, tax, price)

[PostOak5115]

Originally Posted by Gandhi the baby deer

Did you know that the Houston Galleria has a different name than the Galleria Dallas by design? For some reason, when they did a 300 million refurbishment of the Galleria Dallas, they wanted to differentiate between the two. So, they switched the name around to differentiate it from the Houston Galleria. Still, having the Dallas Galleria as an anchor is a great start. It just never dawned on me. It is all about anchors nowadays because of the internet's effect with its online shopping.
So, when looking at that picture of Midtown, understand that much of it already exists as an anchor.
I still think the area needs to continue averaging 90,000 jobs a year to make this project work.

All true second and third generations Texans and especially Houston have and will always call it "The Galleria" in Houston as it was originally named back in the 70s.

[JJG]

Originally Posted by kdogg817

Hopefully this project leads to more vertical growth in the core.


I know there is a Class A tower planned off chisolm
parkway. I wish it was taller but I will take it. But everything is signaling a building boom for Fort Worth. The commercial and real-estate market occupancy rate is extremely high.

Behind the Deal: Overton Centre Spec - Real Estate Bisnow (DFW)

Yeah, I found out about that one today. Didn't want to post it because I felt it wouldn't be good enough.



Besides, this is a suburban office building. Doesn't really need to be any taller than 10 floors, if you ask me.

Now if this were Houston...

[Cyborgt800]

....So, no TALL buildings then?

[Gandhi the baby deer]

Originally Posted by PostOak5115

All true second and third generations Texans and especially Houston have and will always call it "The Galleria" in Houston as it was originally named back in the 70s.

Will you admit that The Galleria in Houston is a notch below Northpark Center? In the future, the Dallas Galleria is going to have a difficult time holding off the Shops of Willow Bend which has come storming back here recently. So, I think the Dallas Galleria will be happy just maintaining itself as the number four store in the Dallas area. When compared to the Houston Galleria, the Galleria Dallas seems a bit of a failure. But, in large and competitive retail market of Dallas, the store has found its bliss.

And many people will always continue saying "the Galleria area" over the more contrived "Uptown area."

[JJG]

Originally Posted by Cyborgt800

....So, no TALL buildings then?

I said I didn't want to post it....

[TexasTallest]

Originally Posted by Gandhi the baby deer

Did you know that the Houston Galleria has a different name than the Galleria Dallas by design? For some reason, when they did a 300 million refurbishment of the Galleria Dallas, they wanted to differentiate between the two. So, they switched the name around to differentiate it from the Houston Galleria. Still, having the Dallas Galleria as an anchor is a great start. It just never dawned on me. It is all about anchors nowadays because of the internet's effect with its online shopping.
So, when looking at that picture of Midtown, understand that much of it already exists as an anchor.
I still think the area needs to continue averaging 90,000 jobs a year to make this project work.

Originally Posted by Gandhi the baby deer

Will you admit that The Galleria in Houston is a notch below Northpark Center? In the future, the Dallas Galleria is going to have a difficult time holding off the Shops of Willow Bend which has come storming back here recently. So, I think the Dallas Galleria will be happy just maintaining itself as the number four store in the Dallas area. When compared to the Houston Galleria, the Galleria Dallas seems a bit of a failure. But, in large and competitive retail market of Dallas, the store has found its bliss.

And many people will always continue saying "the Galleria area" over the more contrived "Uptown area."

I don't understand you. First you hype up the Dallas galleria as an excellent anchor that proves Dallas midtown will happen, and will be successful...
Then you talk down on the Dallas galleria and say it's "barely holding onto the #4 spot in Dallas" or w/e. Is the Dallas galleria successful or not?

I say midtown Dallas is a pipe dream (in it's present state) because it has over FIFTY high rises in that one little area.. That's 20% of every high rise in all of the Dallas area... Vs the 7 tower uptown park project you claimed would never happen, which is less than 2% of all of Houston's high rises... Tell me again why the Houston redevelopment plan won't happen but your now so sure the midtown Dallas plan will be built out as envisioned?

And why should anyone admit northpark is a step above theGalleria (proper name for Houston's galleria..)? theGalleria is without a doubt the best shopping in Texas. Is northpark more high end? Maybe.. But that doesn't mean it's better.

[Cyborgt800]

I was surprised to find out as I moved from Las Vegas to the "Tall City" that the Luxor, one of the shortest casinos on the strip, is taller than the tallest building in the "Tall City"!

[Gandhi the baby deer]

Originally Posted by TexasTallest

I don't understand you. First you hype up the Dallas galleria as an excellent anchor that proves Dallas midtown will happen, and will be successful...
Then you talk down on the Dallas galleria and say it's "barely holding onto the #4 spot in Dallas" or w/e. Is the Dallas galleria successful or not?

I say midtown Dallas is a pipe dream (in it's present state) because it has over FIFTY high rises in that one little area.. That's 20% of every high rise in all of the Dallas area... Vs the 7 tower uptown park project you claimed would never happen, which is less than 2% of all of Houston's high rises... Tell me again why the Houston redevelopment plan won't happen but your now so sure the midtown Dallas plan will be built out as envisioned?

And why should anyone admit northpark is a step above theGalleria (proper name for Houston's galleria..)? theGalleria is without a doubt the best shopping in Texas. Is northpark more high end? Maybe.. But that doesn't mean it's better.

No, I've also changed my mind about the Houston development. I'm sure it will be developed. Understand, the Midtown development has been sitting there for a few years now while the Houston development has just been submitted. But it is hard to bet against anything being built in Uptown Houston.

Being the number 4 store in Dallas is not a bad thing. I rank then this way:

Highland Park (in scale)
Northpark Center (in both scale and volume of sales)
Preston Center (in scale)
The Dallas Galleria
The Shops at Willow Bend Mall

So, that is a great anchor to have for a development. All those high rises aren't that tall in the Midtown development. The highest one is thirty stories. This development on the east side of the North Dallas Parkway will be balanced on the west by the North Dallas Design District and even further west by a planned neighborhood called Vitruvian Park.

[BCB]

Frisco just announced a new development: the Forum at Wade Park.



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Whole Foods will anchor the retail section of a large mixed-use development planned in Frisco at the southeast corner of the Dallas North Tollway and Lebanon Road.

The store will be about 45,000 square feet and is expected to open in fall 2015.

Atlanta-based Thomas Land & Development LLC recently purchased the land and has named the 110-acre project The Forum at Wade Park. The Wade family sold Thomas the land. It had been in their family for more than 100 years.

Plans also include:
3,000,000sqft office
600,000sqft high-end retail
1,200 apartments
127 single-family homes
1 hotel

This is HUGE for Frisco! It appears to be a hybrid of Granite Park and Legacy…will have to keep an eye on development updates.

[PostOak5115]

Originally Posted by Gandhi the baby deer

Will you admit that The Galleria in Houston is a notch below Northpark Center? In the future, the Dallas Galleria is going to have a difficult time holding off the Shops of Willow Bend which has come storming back here recently. So, I think the Dallas Galleria will be happy just maintaining itself as the number four store in the Dallas area. When compared to the Houston Galleria, the Galleria Dallas seems a bit of a failure. But, in large and competitive retail market of Dallas, the store has found its bliss.

And many people will always continue saying "the Galleria area" over the more contrived "Uptown area."

The Galleria has always benefited from no other competition in the Houston market. Houston's main shopping district is centralized in the "The Galleria area". Uptown Houston is the office market name that went along with the office space, restaurants, lodging, and retail space in the area. The Galleria benefits from being in close proximity to most all of Houston's high net worth enclaves, international high net worth shoppers/travelers, and regional shoppers from South Louisiana and other places.

Galleria I with ice skating rink is the oldest and most charming and expensive part of The Galleria. Galleria II is nice but not like Galleria I. Northpark Center is thankfully Dallas crown indoor shopping jewel with it's recent renovations and courtyard, it 's the only other mall in Texas with sales volume that matches The Galleria in Houston. Northpark is modern but warm with the Nasher art collection and the vintage fountains and garden areas.

The collection of high end stores and department stores is somewhat even for The Galleria and Northpark with The Galleria having a slight edge by having a Saks Fifth Avenue and soon a new Saks Fifth Avenue will be built along the gutting and renovation of the old one and Galleria III. This will bring even more new stores such as Rolex, Tods, John Varvatos, Tourbillion, TopShop-Topman, Trina Turk and many more along with renovations and expansions of existing stores such as Chanel, Tory Burch, Zara and more. The recent Simon investment in the Galleria is most likely influenced by competition from other close new developments such as River Oaks District and BLVD. Place.

Northpark Center is definitely a large luxury destination right near the heart of high net worth Dallas, Preston Hollow, Park Cities, Bluffview, and Turtle Creek/Uptown Dallas not too terribly far. Although some don't see it as a rival, Highland Park Village definitely holds it own against Northpark Center as far as luxury shopping and charm is concerned. I prefer the larger mix of stores and the Neiman Marcus and Nordstroms as do most international tourists. It will always be the best in DFW, but Highland Park Village is playing second fiddle either. Plano's Shops at Willow Bend along with Legacy Town Center is the biggest threat to the Galleria Midtown Area in Dallas. Galleria Dallas lost a little luster when Saks Fifth Avenue left.

What's great about Texas is that you have options for luxury shopping and Austin and San Antonio are even playing in the game though not in Dallas or Houston's league.