How long is someone "Hispanic"? (West, Howe: cities, island)

[robertpolyglot]

Originally Posted by tstone

I'm 25% Spanish (from Spain like Antonio Banderas), 72% other S/W European (UK/Irish/Italian/French), and ~3% Native American. I don't speak Spanish, have fair skin with a small amount of tanning capability, brown hair & eyes that glow lighter in the sun. I have always been classified as white without question. It sounds like maybe this was in error. How many government grants have I missed out on??

There is a semantics issue here that creates an "overlap" problem, having just gone through checking some boxes. White says "peoples of Europe, the Middle East and North Africa." Hispanic says "peoples of central and South America as well as other Hispanic groups." Technically, a Spaniard is in Group 1...clearly a Caucasian.

Checking a minority box would be kind of "off base" here since a Portuguese (to your left) and an Italian, where my Mom and Dad are from, (to your right) can't check these boxes. Now, an Argentinian or Uruguayan could check these boxes. I've been there twice. Practically every last one of them traces their ancestry to Spain or Italy...I must have looked like the natives as I was asked for directions, LOL. They would bristle at being considered a minority, though, especially the proud Argentinians (fun people, though). However, I suppose some could secretly "double dip" and get the advantages of affirmative action.

I think the Hispanic designation was really intended to protect those of an indigenous North/Central/South American bloodline as opposed to those who clearly trace their ancestry to Europe. Also, why is there no protection for similar Brazilians? Some clearly trace their ancestry in its entirety to Portugal while others trace their ancestry to indigenous South American stock and/or to Africa.

[EasilyAmused]

Originally Posted by crystalblue

that i could see

but i'm just curious how the census qualifies someone as hispanic, even if they are so far removed from the culture.

if your black, but your kids marries a white person, and their kid, and their kid, 3 or 4 generations down, i doubt their great great great great great grandkid is considered black

but it seems like he WOULD be considered hispanic

I think that's termed Octorune (spelling??) Very stunning skin color.

[nyc0127]

All of you should read the forum attached to these posts. They will be very valuable and informative in regard the the integrity of the term Hispanic. It will answer the term Hispanic and explain why and how the term was craftily implemented in 1970. I explain the history and the probability of the future of the absolving of the term. The term isn't recognized internationally. I don't want to keep a debate going on several boards though, because I don't got the time. If any of you are interested, please post, vote or what ever.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...macy-term.html

[crystalblue]

washingtonpost.com

Given the high rate of intermarriage between Latinos and members of other ethnic groups, many descendants of today's Latinos may not even identify themselves as such.


thats what I'm talking about right there. How much intermarriage has to take place before your no longer "Hispanic"?

[Trainwreck20]

Based on the current definition, you will always be technically hispanic. It may be a bad definition, but it is reality, as far as I can tell. As for when you stop calling yourself hispanic? Whenever you feel like it.

[loves2read]

a person who has an Hispanic surname, has Hispanic features can call himself or herself what ever he or she pleases--but be prepared to be catagorized as Hispanic by others who don't know you or your wishes personally
My husband works in downtown FTW and has a young woman working for him with Hispanic surname (because she married a Tex-Mex guy) but her maiden name was Hispanic originally--she is from New Mexico--she has classic Hispanic features -- but speaks no Spanish--and does not consider herself Hispanic--
her aunt who also worked there had no Hispanic surname because she married an Anglo-American with German heritage and yet she spoke Spanish--and considered herself Hispanic in background
go figure

[achtungpv]

I'm 1/8 Hispanic (great grandmother), don't consider myself so, and have a French last name. However, in the eyes of the government my side business qualifies as a minority business enterprise (1/8 being the limit of race dilution), so I am happy to be considered a minority. Interestingly enough, my birth certificate says "Latin American" (Hispanic didn't exist in the early 70s I guess) because the nurse that filled out the paperwork knew my great grandmother and put her ethnicity down.

[imaterry78259]

Manu Ginobelli is of Italian descent not Hispanic

[imaterry78259]

The city of New Orleans and Louisiana in particular of mix races from Hispanic to creole. For instant Suzanne Malveux,CNN newscaster , Bryant Gumbel and Ray Nagin are black creoles from New Orleans. Xavier Cugat of New Orleans is hispanic. Beyonce of Houston is Black creole spanish. In New Orleans you can't always tell black from white or hispanic from blacks. the same for the creole who have immigrated to Houston

[Rocket Power]

Being someone who's half Mexican/Caucasian, I've always considered myself Tex/Mex. It's not just a type of food

I have found that when I've worked in little whitewashed towns, most people looked at me as a Mexican looking guy or just a Mexican. When I've been in/worked in diverse towns and cities, most folks looked at me as white