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Old 11-22-2019, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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I do find it hard to believe that Trump won 34% of the Texas Latino vote,
A lot of people believed fantasies about him in those early days, such as his words that he was a non-partisan outsider, and a populist. Completely insane and incredulous now, in hindsight How much better we see now.
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Old 11-22-2019, 10:26 PM
 
Location: So California
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I don't think it will anytime soon. Most incoming population even California, tend to be conservative middle class folks.
The vote for Beto was an anomaly, because he pretended to be a moderate.
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Old 11-23-2019, 08:22 AM
 
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I do find it hard to believe that Trump won 34% of the Texas Latino vote, but there are probably other factors involved. That being said, that vote was before the draconian immigration policies and the ridiculous wall proposal to block off one the nation that has the most embedded historical ties to Texas and even the US. Since then, people with ancestry from $#!+hole countries have become a lot more dissatisfied. So I would not count on that vote trend continuing.

https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic...a-under-trump/
The Hispanic vote percentage is probably based on exit polls. Thus, it would only constitute those who voted - a demographic that often skews older, and more conservative.

This is especially compounded since many of those older Hispanics are Tejanos, who have lived in Texas for generations, and really may as well be Anglos as it regards voting purposes.
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Old 11-23-2019, 08:30 AM
 
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The vote for Beto was an anomaly, because he pretended to be a moderate.
No, Beto succeed as well as he did because he knew all the chinks in the Texas Republican machine, and exploited them to his advantage. It's a skill developed from understanding the true nature of Texas conservatism, which isn't possible with any run-of-the-mill Democrat.

Texas conservatives will probably still vote conservative even if it was a dog running for election. Beto's moderate stance wasn't that much of a factor.
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Old 11-23-2019, 09:38 AM
 
Location: "The Dirty Irv" Irving, TX
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No, Beto succeed as well as he did because he knew all the chinks in the Texas Republican machine, and exploited them to his advantage. It's a skill developed from understanding the true nature of Texas conservatism, which isn't possible with any run-of-the-mill Democrat.

Texas conservatives will probably still vote conservative even if it was a dog running for election. Beto's moderate stance wasn't that much of a factor.
It also didnt hurt he was running against Cruz. Cruz comes off is incredibly insincere (Like Liz Warren) and is just not very likeable.

Betto has done himself in with his gun stance though, which was a premature attempt to appeal to the broader Democratic base.

I think the odds of Beto winning a state wide election are mostly shot now.
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Old 11-23-2019, 09:41 AM
 
Location: So California
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No, Beto succeed as well as he did because he knew all the chinks in the Texas Republican machine, and exploited them to his advantage. It's a skill developed from understanding the true nature of Texas conservatism, which isn't possible with any run-of-the-mill Democrat.

Texas conservatives will probably still vote conservative even if it was a dog running for election. Beto's moderate stance wasn't that much of a factor.


Or its the only factor. He tried to act like just a good ole kid from Texas, but we know what his past looks like and now we know who he really is after the failed presidential run. He's got a huge ego to boot thinking he was qualified for the senate and presidency. I agree on your last bit.
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Old 11-23-2019, 11:41 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Fair.

That number for Austin seems inflated, but could be true. Austin feels about as white as Portland to me, but then again this is about the facts not about feelings.
That is because in the core and the west half of the city is pretty much all white. Downtown, West Campus, and the Lake Travis area, are the areas in which tourists visit most and stick around to. South, Southeast, and North Austin have a large Hispanic population. East and north Austin have a large black population. The core, north and Northwest Austin have a large Asian population. Along with West Campus, SE Austin, along E. Riverside Dr., and N Austin, along Rundberg Ln, are two of the most diverse areas in the city. But they are also the most dangerous.

Austin has a large El Salvadorian, Honduran, Mexican, and Guatemalan immigrant community and is a sanctuary city. A considerable part of the Hispanic population is Spanish speaking only and being bilingual comes very much in handy in the south half of the city.
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Old 11-23-2019, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Belton, Tx
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I think Texas's future is as a swing/battleground state.
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Old 11-23-2019, 05:24 PM
 
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Or its the only factor. He tried to act like just a good ole kid from Texas, but we know what his past looks like and now we know who he really is after the failed presidential run. He's got a huge ego to boot thinking he was qualified for the senate and presidency.
But see, Beto actually grew up in Texas. So the viewpoints he holds are quite authentic they pertain the relationship to the state - including his stances on gun control and church exemptions. Very much in contrast to Cruz, the Bushes, and other carpetbaggers jumping aboard the mere facade of Texas.

In terms of the presidential campaign, Beto's problem simply was that his platform just didn't stand out in the face of his competitors. The progressive wings all would go for Bernie or Warren, whereas those more grounded would choose people like Andrew Yang.
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Old 11-24-2019, 05:45 PM
 
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But see, Beto actually grew up in Texas. So the viewpoints he holds are quite authentic they pertain the relationship to the state - including his stances on gun control and church exemptions. Very much in contrast to Cruz, the Bushes, and other carpetbaggers jumping aboard the mere facade of Texas.

In terms of the presidential campaign, Beto's problem simply was that his platform just didn't stand out in the face of his competitors. The progressive wings all would go for Bernie or Warren, whereas those more grounded would choose people like Andrew Yang.
Yep. Beto grew up in Texas, as did I (only 20 years earlier and in a different part of the state). His viewpoints definitely resonated with me.
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