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Old 06-03-2020, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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I didn't say they weren't factors. I said most who move are conservatives. This can be confirmed in the most recent senate race. I said nothing about factors other than they are fed up with their blue states (could it be because those blue states have implemented policies that removed jobs from the state and made the cost of living higher? Nah, couldn't be....)
It can? The 2018 senate was was the closest the state has had in decades. Cruz won by less than 2%. Thats something that no one ever thought would happen this quickly. That goes against your point.

As for your statement that most people who move here are conservative, prove it.
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Old 06-03-2020, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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I didn't say they weren't factors. I said most who move are conservatives. This can be confirmed in the most recent senate race. I said nothing about factors other than they are fed up with their blue states (could it be because those blue states have implemented policies that removed jobs from the state and made the cost of living higher? Nah, couldn't be....)
It can be proved in the Senate race? You realize that was a historically close senate race? And the counties turning blue or getting less red (in cases like Collin and Montgomery County) are the ones where people are moving to. In 2004, even Harris and Dallas county were red. Today, the suburban counties of Fort Bend and Hays are blue. I wonder where you’re gettin the youre getting your information from.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t see the presidential elections being nearly as close as the Senate race was, but it’s definitely to the point that the Republican Party has to be increasingly concerned over losing their biggest state.
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Old 06-03-2020, 08:50 PM
 
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It can be proved in the Senate race? You realize that was a historically close senate race? And the counties turning blue or getting less red (in cases like Collin and Montgomery County) are the ones where people are moving to. In 2004, even Harris and Dallas county were red. Today, the suburban counties of Fort Bend and Hays are blue. I wonder where you’re gettin the youre getting your information from.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t see the presidential elections being nearly as close as the Senate race was, but it’s definitely to the point that the Republican Party has to be increasingly concerned over losing their biggest state.
It should definitely be of concern to them, because they have 0 chance of winning without Texas. However, if the GOP manages to stop being so divisive, they would have less to worry about. W got over 40% of the Hispanic vote nationwide, the Dems would have no realistic way of winning if the Republicans managed to do that again.
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Old 06-03-2020, 09:11 PM
 
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https://www.thecentersquare.com/texa...3155b0d9d.html

If Texas does ever go blue, I bet many conservative Texans will move to swing states, and hopefully it will be enough to make them shift red. I don't expect this to be something easy to accomplish, only a possibility
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Old 06-03-2020, 11:37 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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https://www.thecentersquare.com/texa...3155b0d9d.html

If Texas does ever go blue, I bet many conservative Texans will move to swing states, and hopefully it will be enough to make them shift red. I don't expect this to be something easy to accomplish, only a possibility
That would only make Texas more blue if the conservatives left at that point. Texas isn't in danger of going full on blue (yet). It's just in danger of becoming a swing state. The problem is the way the trend is going, if it makes the flip, it will likely continue the path.
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Old 06-03-2020, 11:40 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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It should definitely be of concern to them, because they have 0 chance of winning without Texas. However, if the GOP manages to stop being so divisive, they would have less to worry about. W got over 40% of the Hispanic vote nationwide, the Dems would have no realistic way of winning if the Republicans managed to do that again.
Another emerging road block from a blue takeover is the loss of trust amongst blacks (and hispanics to a lesser degree) with the democratic party. Not them turning republican, just not trusting democrats either. If democrats keep taking them for granted, they'll likely keep losing trust from minorities.
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Old 06-04-2020, 12:53 AM
 
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If Texas goes blue, expect many conservatives to leave. Many already want to.
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Old 06-04-2020, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Belton, Tx
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I remember once reading that Fort Worth mirrors the culturally and ethnically and that if the city went blue, the state would follow. Do you see any truth in that?
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Old 06-04-2020, 09:24 AM
 
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If Texas goes blue, expect many conservatives to leave. Many already want to.

More would talk about leaving than would actually leave. It holds true with raising taxes as well.
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Old 06-04-2020, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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That's now what he's saying. Obviously Texas isn't a top 5 conservative state. Austin and Houston are here. In his post, he's specifying that the state level republicans are ultra-conservative. Look at Ted Cruz and Greg Abbott. They're part of the reason the blue wave in Texas 4 large metros is speeding up.
Ultra conservative? Lol
They are much more liberal than the democrats were in this state 50 years ago and are more aligned with JFK’s policies than the current democrats.
It is the democrats who have moved to the far left.

But yes, the state will turn blue eventually because of pendulum politics. Then once the Ds screw around bankrupting Texas, then it’ll be the Rs turn again to **** half the state off.
And so it will go.
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