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The whole concept of the south based on slave labor was just evil, but slavery was already 240+ years old (1619-1861) by the time the War Between the States broke out. This is going to sound weird, but every time I visited a site (such as one of the very few remaining antebellum mansions with slave quarters), I would just get the creeps. I could actually feel old spirits wandering the place, and I wanted away from them as soon as possible.[/color]
Doesnt sound "weird" at all. In fact, I am facinated and interested in it. Now I DO disagree that the Southern cause and the South boiled down to simply slavery. In fact, although I have sorta "semi-retired" from it, I used to give little short talks to historical organizations on the Southern side of the War. Unfortunately, too few Southerners know what motivated their ancestors (at least 70,000 Texans alone) to go out and fight their butts off from dawn to setting sun...
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Ok, sounds good to me......!! I'll have Tecate and a plate of enchiladas...and you can have your beer and CFS....LOL!!!
I wouldn't mind the enchilada...not in the least! Hey, I NEVER denied that I didnt LOVE that Tex-Mex stuff! LOL
05-17-2008, 04:12 PM
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Doesnt sound "weird" at all. In fact, I am facinated and interested in it. Now I DO disagree that the Southern cause and the South boiled down to simply slavery. In fact, although I have sorta "semi-retired" from it, I used to give little short talks to historical organizations on the Southern side of the War. Unfortunately, too few Southerners know what motivated their ancestors (at least 70,000 Texans alone) to go out and fight their butts off from dawn to setting sun...
Basically, besides the issue of slavery....what it boiled down to..."YOU (G****mn yankees!!!) don't tell us what to do or how to live our lives!"
OK, we can have some spirited conversation over an icy cold one.....I'm sure your resident "yankee" has a few choice words over all this Southern stuff....LOL!!!!
05-17-2008, 04:28 PM
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Basically, besides the issue of slavery....what it boiled down to..."YOU (G****mn yankees!!!) don't tell us what to do or how to live our lives!"
LMAO. Actually, she is a true westerner, and tries to stay "neutral" She gets irritated when I refer to her as a "yankee"... but at the same time, she pronounces her home state of "Coller-ah-duh" as "Coller-A-Doe.
And when she makes chili...it has beans in it. It is good...but it AINT chili!
05-17-2008, 04:36 PM
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LMAO. Actually, she is a true westerner, and tries to stay "neutral" She gets irritated when I refer to her as a "yankee"... but at the same time, she pronounces her home state of "Coller-ah-duh" as "Coller-A-Doe.
LOL!!!
I myself have always said "Colorado" with a strong "o" at the end. It also reminds me of one of my great-aunts. There is a small town called Colorado City in West Texas.....she and her friends always called it Collar-RAY-duh City.....
Don't tell me you pick the beans out........
05-17-2008, 04:45 PM
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LOL!!!
I myself have always said "Colorado" with a strong "o" at the end. It also reminds me of one of my great-aunts. There is a small town called Colorado City in West Texas.....she and her friends always called it Collar-RAY-duh City.....
Don't tell me you pick the beans out........
When we get together and visit, y'all will probably get along great! She is somewhere between the two of us. She DOES think of Texas as Southern not Western (according to her definition of the West..her home turf). At the same time, she is in lots of ways more akin to your way of thinking than mine.
It is interesting...and we ARE going to have to all meet! LOL
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Basically, besides the issue of slavery....what it boiled down to..."YOU (G****mn yankees!!!) don't tell us what to do or how to live our lives!"
That, plus people are naturally inclined to fight off anyone or anything that they see as a threat to their family and property, no matter what "noble cause" the invaders might have or how just or unjust their own government is. We see that lesson repeated in the middle east today (and saw it in other previous post-WWII conflicts, as well).
A lot of the regular folks "just want the d*** foreigners to go home," whether it's us "good guys" or al qaeda or anyone else.
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That, plus people are naturally inclined to fight off anyone or anything that they see as a threat to their family and property, no matter what "noble cause" the invaders might have or how just or unjust their own government is. We see that lesson repeated in the middle east today (and saw it in other previous post-WWII conflicts, as well).
Not a bad summation...but it needs to be added that the inclination IS truly natural and nothing wrong with it.
In 1860, all most Texas/Southern boys knew was that somebody called "yankees" were coming down to invade them. If typical, they were just simple farm boys...didn't own a slave...and had no interest in the institution one way or another. They volunteered to fight because, as they saw it, they were all that stood between them and their families and home and hearth. Here is the best on this I have ever read:
Don Drane - Confederate history - gravestones - cemetery
Mine doesn't quite match it, and was done years apart from Don's great piece, but it follows a bit...
Southern (USA) history - Randy Hill - Confederate graves
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05-17-2008, 07:26 PM
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When we get together and visit, y'all will probably get along great! She is somewhere between the two of us. She DOES think of Texas as Southern not Western (according to her definition of the West. .her home turf). At the same time, she is in lots of ways more akin to your way of thinking than mine.
Ohhhhh nooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!! LOL!!!!
But Texas does have very little in common with CO....it is WT that has much in common with much of NM, though.
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That, plus people are naturally inclined to fight off anyone or anything that they see as a threat to their family and property, no matter what "noble cause" the invaders might have or how just or unjust their own government is. We see that lesson repeated in the middle east today (and saw it in other previous post-WWII conflicts, as well).
Good points...!
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Ohhhhh nooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!! LOL!!!!
But Texas does have very little in common with CO....it is WT that has much in common with much of NM, though.
OR...maybe eastern NM has something in common with far West Texas...? *grins*
Actually, Cathy, I am not being a smarta$$. Eastern New Mexico WAS, for a long time, referred to as "little Texas" because that was the western most extention of Texas/Southern settlement.
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People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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