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Old 10-04-2009, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Middleton, Wisconsin
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I had a 94 4runner, was driving into town one day slowing down because the speedlimit went from 45 to 35. I was cruising along let off the gad and eased into town. There's about a two mile stretch before you reach your first stop light. All of a sudden my gas pedal stuck, I'm speeding up scared to death, I decide to shift it into neutral and get ready to turn the key so it doesn't over rev. I did so and I pulled over. I let her sit for a little bit, didn't do that for a good two weeks then it didn't again. Did the same neutral turn off and I was ok. I haven't owned a toyota since, that left a real bad taste in my mouth.

My prayers go out to that family, what a crock of ****. A freakn floormat? What in the sam hell? I don't mean to get mouthy but this is a family that was killed due to the fact that you can't shut the car down.
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Old 10-04-2009, 05:36 PM
 
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I had a 94 4runner, was driving into town one day slowing down because the speedlimit went from 45 to 35. I was cruising along let off the gad and eased into town. There's about a two mile stretch before you reach your first stop light. All of a sudden my gas pedal stuck, I'm speeding up scared to death, I decide to shift it into neutral and get ready to turn the key so it doesn't over rev. I did so and I pulled over. I let her sit for a little bit, didn't do that for a good two weeks then it didn't again. Did the same neutral turn off and I was ok. I haven't owned a toyota since, that left a real bad taste in my mouth.

My prayers go out to that family, what a crock of ****. A freakn floormat? What in the sam hell? I don't mean to get mouthy but this is a family that was killed due to the fact that you can't shut the car down.
I know, and I have two Toyotas--00 Camry and 07 Camry. My wife said that she had problems with the floor mat in our 07 Camry stucking under her accelerator. She would just pull it out every time it would get stuck. Now she drives without due to the recall.
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Old 10-04-2009, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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I had a 94 4runner, was driving into town one day slowing down because the speedlimit went from 45 to 35. I was cruising along let off the gad and eased into town. There's about a two mile stretch before you reach your first stop light. All of a sudden my gas pedal stuck, I'm speeding up scared to death, I decide to shift it into neutral and get ready to turn the key so it doesn't over rev. I did so and I pulled over. I let her sit for a little bit, didn't do that for a good two weeks then it didn't again. Did the same neutral turn off and I was ok. I haven't owned a toyota since, that left a real bad taste in my mouth.

My prayers go out to that family, what a crock of ****. A freakn floormat? What in the sam hell? I don't mean to get mouthy but this is a family that was killed due to the fact that you can't shut the car down.
I have a 92 4Runner, my sister had a 95, I belong to 3 4Runner forums and have never heard of this happening to a 4runner. You sure it wasn't the floormat?
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Old 10-07-2009, 03:22 PM
 
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You have point Or was the driver a complete idiot, or wanted to commit suicide?
Could have been many things. In any case it should be well investigated before people jump to absolute conclusions and lawsuits and recalls start flying.
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Old 10-07-2009, 03:26 PM
 
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My prayers go out to that family, what a crock of ****. A freakn floormat? What in the sam hell? I don't mean to get mouthy but this is a family that was killed due to the fact that you can't shut the car down.
YES YOU CAN. It's operator error if the driver didn't know how to do that!!
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Old 10-07-2009, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Eastern Washington
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YES YOU CAN. It's operator error if the driver didn't know how to do that!!
Exactly. That and in any automatic-equipped car that I know about, if you brake hard starting with cold brakes, even with the engine WOT, you can stop the car.

Operator error. Trooper or not, the guy's control inputs were incompetent.
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Old 10-07-2009, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Exactly. That and in any automatic-equipped car that I know about, if you brake hard starting with cold brakes, even with the engine WOT, you can stop the car.

Operator error. Trooper or not, the guy's control inputs were incompetent.
Yup. The driver was likely in panic mode after the pedal got stuck (for whatever reason), and didn't even consider selecting neutral from fear of rolling the car too far thru an intersection.

As far as the reason behind stuck pedal, I would not toss out the possibility of floor mat doing that either. A few months ago, I had a floor mat (in a rental car) interfere with braking. Fortunately, I was able to pull it out, and the situation wasn't anywhere close from being bad.

Another reason for piano-style gas pedals, like it is in Acuras and BMWs. I prefer them anyway.
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Old 10-07-2009, 08:47 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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As far as the reason behind stuck pedal, I would not toss out the possibility of floor mat doing that either. A few months ago, I had a floor mat (in a rental car) interfere with braking. Fortunately, I was able to pull it out, and the situation wasn't anywhere close from being bad.

Was it a Toyota?
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Old 10-07-2009, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Middleton, Wisconsin
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I have a 92 4Runner, my sister had a 95, I belong to 3 4Runner forums and have never heard of this happening to a 4runner. You sure it wasn't the floormat?

My 4runner had the mats removed. Never had mats in that thing.
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Old 10-07-2009, 10:30 PM
 
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Exactly. That and in any automatic-equipped car that I know about, if you brake hard starting with cold brakes, even with the engine WOT, you can stop the car.

Operator error. Trooper or not, the guy's control inputs were incompetent.
I think that applies to German Cars... the kind designed for the autobahn

Over the years I have a number of vehicles where the engine could over-power the brakes... my 66 Hi Performance Mustang, 62 Corvette and even the Motor Home built on a Ford F450 chassis where the cruise control stuck... stepping hard on the brakes only caused the 460 motor to roar as the transmission downshifted and the pedal pulsed ABS rear ABS brakes...

It was a white knuckle ride!
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