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Old 09-09-2011, 08:38 AM
 
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At least he had a 2nd Amendment Solution to his problems.
Seems no one is addressing the fact that people with severe mental problems still buy guns.

where does it say he had severe mental problems? According to the Sheriffs He was taking meds for stress. Do to some fianancial issues he had and also filed backruptsy
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Old 09-09-2011, 09:45 AM
 
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where does it say he had severe mental problems? According to the Sheriffs He was taking meds for stress. Do to some fianancial issues he had and also filed backruptsy
Details emerge of quiet, troubled IHOP gunman - Yahoo! News
Sounds like much more than just stress, from this limited description one can conclude that he cannot legally own or possess a firearm:
"was being treated with medication for longtime mental problems, investigators said....Sencion's mental health history likely would have precluded his acceptance into the military of his adopted country....He was taken into protective custody by South Lake Tahoe police during a mental health commitment in April 2000. "

Protective custody is serious - that means he threatened himself or others at the time.
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Old 09-09-2011, 10:03 AM
 
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At least he had a 2nd Amendment Solution to his problems.
Seems no one is addressing the fact that people with severe mental problems still buy guns.
I doubt this person legally purchased these guns. But lets address your post (even though it might be heading into off-topic subjects) - People with severe mental illness are not permitted to buy or own guns per Federal Regulation. NICS will collect information from mental health professionals, but submission is all voluntary. And also, lets say the mentally ill individual was not even identified by a health professional as mentally ill.

This is the issue - the identification and publication of mentally ill individuals conflicts with the civil rights and freedoms of individuals. Not in terms of gun ownership, it has nothing to do with gun ownership, but in terms of individual privacy. What are we asking? That doctors are required to report all mental health issues to Big Brother? What else will the government do with this information? Or do we require a government appointed doctor to do mental health screening to all citizens once a year to report to some Washington Beauracracy? Do we let the government identify exactly who is mentally ill? Imagine all these liberal civil libereties legal groups to issue lawsuits like crazy even if the reason is to identify the mentally ill for gun control purposes.

Everyone agrees, even 2nd ammendment proponents, that guns do not belong in the hands of the mentally ill. The problem is finding a solution that does not conflict with the rights of everyone, even non-gunowners.

Automatic Weapon fact - no legally owned or obtained fully automatic weapon has been used in a crime by a civilian since the times of Bonnie and Clyde and John Dillenger (one murder is on record as committed by a police officer with a PD issued auto assault weapon). That's a fact. If this person somehow went through all the BTAF regulations and checks and license fees and bought a very expensive (because it would have to be pre-86 made and essentially a collector item) automatic weapon and used it in this crime, it would be the first time since 1936.

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Old 09-09-2011, 06:33 PM
 
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According to the Sheriffs office his medication is for stress I see it has been updated...

You can LEAGLLY buy an barter a gun from a private owner in NV and you do not have to have it registered.
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Old 09-13-2011, 10:41 AM
 
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I read somewhere that the law against owning guns for people with mental-health histories is pretty toothless. Only about 1% of people applying for gun permits are actually investigated.

Why anyone in this country who's not in the police or military should have access to an assault weapon is the first place is beyond me.
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Old 09-13-2011, 11:51 PM
 
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As financially strapped as Nevada is, at least we can extend him one thank-you, for saving the taxpayers years, perhaps decades, of incarceration costs.

Take a portion of those unbudgeted prisons costs, if he had gone to court and sent to prison, and hand it over to the victims' families.
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Old 09-15-2011, 04:33 PM
 
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more info has come in about this guys health He Deff. had some SERIOUS mental issues. IHOP SHOOTING: Shooter's mental issues surfaced quickly | NevadaAppeal.com




IHOP shooting: Surveillance video captures terrifying 77 seconds (with video) | NevadaAppeal.com
also here is the survalance video from the restaurant next door
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