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Old 06-30-2016, 05:56 AM
 
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Reading the last ten or so pages of this thread, I saw little discussion of Bran Stark.


Now, if I am correct, the main theme of his story line has been his developing ability to possess (or whatever they call it) the minds and bodies of animals. For what purpose? Simply being able to enter the mind/body of a wolf or like creature, while interesting, would not mean much for the coming battles for the Iron Throne.


It has been made, I believe, rather clear that of the three dragons, the biggest one is the leader of the other two. If said lead dragon attacks, the other two follow suit.


So, I would suspect that Bran's participation in the final battle for the Throne would be his (to the consternation of Daenerys) ability to possess the largest dragon and control its actions. Otherwise, I see little value in this long story line.
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:39 AM
 
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Regarding Bran Stark, his warg abilities allow him to enter both animals and humans. In the books, he was able to control Hodor (much to Hodor's terror). I don't recall if warging into humans was covered in the TV series.

One other thing to consider - when he met the Three Eyed Raven, Bran asked him if he would ever walk again. The Raven replied that Bran would never walk again, but that he would fly. Maybe the Three Eyed Raven was simply talking about Bran warging into a bird, but it might rather be a foreshadowing that Bran would one day fly on the back of a dragon.
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:51 AM
 
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They showed Bran warging into Hodor quite a bit so it's been covered that he can warg into humans.
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:55 AM
 
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Now that we have had so many seasons it's great to look back and see how some people have caused their own demise or of others. Not that they would have known, but they did certain things that screwed them over in the future.

For example, Olenna Tyrell actually led to her family being killed. Margaery was originally meant to marry Joffrey. While Joffrey was a monster, Joffrey kept many people in check including Cersei. Let's not forget that he threatened to have Cersei executed. Margaery actually had control of Joffrey to a certain extent as well. Cersei because of the prophecy would always hate Margaery regardless of who she was married too. So a couple things here:

If Olenna would have never murdered Joffrey, he most likely still would have been king, meaning he would have NEVER let the High Sparrows take over. He would have NEVER let Margaery be arrested. The trial would then NEVER would have happened. He also would have always put Cersei in check, meaning he would have shipped her ass of to Casterly Rock by force once he saw what she was trying to do against Margaery. Margaery had some control over Joffrey, and Joffrey surprisingly was always nice to Margaery. Perhaps that would change in the future but who knows.

Also, if Joffrey would have never died, Tyrion would have never gone to jail and would have not killed Tywin. Tywin was also someone who kept Cersei in check. Cersei would of tried to pull something maybe kill Loras to avoid marrying him, but what happened in the season finale, I don't see happening if Olenna hadn't done what she did.

I can understand why Olenna did what she did (I might have done the same), but ultimately by killing Joffrey what she did was she unleashed Cersei because the two people that had her in check, Tywin and Joffrey, died due to Olenna's actions. It's really interesting to see how you see the things stack up. Cause if you look at Dorne, Olenna in a sense is also responsible for that. If Tyrion would have never gone to trial, there would have never been a trial by combat where Oberyn dies, meaning that the Martells would be in tact.

So it interesting to see how one action leads to another. So many different stories like this in the series!
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Old 06-30-2016, 10:06 AM
 
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They showed Bran warging into Hodor quite a bit so it's been covered that he can warg into humans.
I think Hodor was a special case, though, since he was mentally challenged due to what happened to him in the past. In the books, though, they warn that it's not as easy to warg into even more intelligent.complex animals.
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Old 06-30-2016, 11:56 AM
 
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Quick question because I can't remember... Why did Jon send Sam to the Citadel? Was it for a specific purpose?
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Old 06-30-2016, 12:34 PM
 
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Reading the last ten or so pages of this thread, I saw little discussion of Bran Stark.


Now, if I am correct, the main theme of his story line has been his developing ability to possess (or whatever they call it) the minds and bodies of animals. For what purpose? Simply being able to enter the mind/body of a wolf or like creature, while interesting, would not mean much for the coming battles for the Iron Throne.


It has been made, I believe, rather clear that of the three dragons, the biggest one is the leader of the other two. If said lead dragon attacks, the other two follow suit.


So, I would suspect that Bran's participation in the final battle for the Throne would be his (to the consternation of Daenerys) ability to possess the largest dragon and control its actions. Otherwise, I see little value in this long story line.
Bran not only has the ability to warg into a dragon (actually there are hints that all of the Stark children can warg, and certainly Jon has the ability); but he also has this past sight that allows for information which can help to bring together Jon and Dany, who for now are on opposite sides.

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Quick question because I can't remember... Why did Jon send Sam to the Citadel? Was it for a specific purpose?
Their maester died, Sam is going to train to become the new maester for the Night's Watch. While there he is also seeking any information to help them in the coming wars.
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Old 06-30-2016, 01:33 PM
 
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The devotion of nerd-dom never ceases to amaze me. Someone actually took the time to devise maps showing the Incredible Magic Speed at which characters moved through Game of Thrones Season 6.

See:

Game of Thrones season six was full of impossible journeys, so we mapped them | The Verge

This raised up an issue I hadn't even noticed before:

The human characters in Game of Thrones, only a few of which can use magic, seem able to have invisible jets to speed them about the planet. But the White Walkers, who have very powerful magic, are taking months and months and months and months to travel a a hundred miles or so.
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Old 06-30-2016, 02:03 PM
 
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The devotion of nerd-dom never ceases to amaze me. Someone actually took the time to devise maps showing the Incredible Magic Speed at which characters moved through Game of Thrones Season 6.

See:

Game of Thrones season six was full of impossible journeys, so we mapped them | The Verge

This raised up an issue I hadn't even noticed before:

The human characters in Game of Thrones, only a few of which can use magic, seem able to have invisible jets to speed them about the planet. But the White Walkers, who have very powerful magic, are taking months and months and months and months to travel a a hundred miles or so.
They're not really moving at jet speed - the time passes, but the show does a lousy job of showing the passage of time most of the time.

The White Walkers don't have a way to get past the Wall - they're biding their time until Bran goes through and releases the magics and causes the Wall to come tumbling down.
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Old 06-30-2016, 05:06 PM
 
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Default Don't get the Dany thing

Why would Dany be considered for the iron throne? There seems to be no point in it.

There are others with the same blood.

She has done nothing to deserve it based upon her debacle as ruler of the city states.

She shows no leadership ability and that would be required to rule successfully.

She cannot have children so even if her army prevails and she gets the throne there would be no dynasty and heirs of her body.

And what noble man would marry her knowing he cannot have children of his body who inherit the throne? Unless he wants as a consort to sit on the throne then dump her and rule on his own.

I can see a purpose for her dragons.
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