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That part I understand. What still perplexes me is why they didn't just bend their elbows to compensate for the increased rope length and thus keep the log nearly straight vertical. Far less difficult on the arm.
Keeping the log vertical was not part of the rules of the challenge, j_k_k. Dimples specifically told them the log would be going down and the challenge for them was to keep holding on to it.
Keeping the log vertical was not part of the rules of the challenge, j_k_k. Dimples specifically told them the log would be going down and the challenge for them was to keep holding on to it.
When the episode gets out in full on CBS's website, I'm actually going to watch that part again to see what he said and how the device worked. I mean, if the log is vertical and you don't let it start falling, unless someone comes around and pushes it, or mandates that you must extend your arm somehow (seems contrived), it doesn't have to fall.
Keeping the log vertical was not part of the rules of the challenge, j_k_k. Dimples specifically told them the log would be going down and the challenge for them was to keep holding on to it.
Okay, I watched it. They did switch hands, for one thing. "Every three minutes you'll switch hands." Each time Probst gave an instruction, it was to move down to the next knot. In his initial instructions, he talked about moving to the next knot every three minutes and said it would dramatically increase the weight of the log, but that's only true if you straighten your arm and they didn't show anyone being told to do that.
After watching the whole thing again (and sitting through three insipid Chase commercials trying to find the right spot in the video), I see no mechanism that was forcing the log away from them except gravity and their own lack of common sense. I see no instruction that the log would be going down, or requiring them to let the log start to hang--just the instructions to change knots, which anyone could do without letting it start to tip. Just bend your elbow, and if that doesn't keep out the slack, pull your hand down to your side. You could stand there all day. Either all these people have no concept of physics (impossible given education levels), or they all didn't think (not impossible given the conditions), or there was a piece we didn't see.
It was, however, amusing to watch Shannon take a tumble again.
If I'm following you don't mean bend your elbow completely so the log is standing upright and has no weight?
Because bending your elbow partially would put a huge amount of strain on your bi-cep and it would be hard, very hard. Harder than leaning back a little to counterbalance the weight with a straight arm - at that point I think it becomes more about your hand.
You can use your own weight to try it out. Tie a rope to something and lean back. Try leaning back with your arm crooked and stay in that position.
I doubt they would have let then stand there with the poles upright - that would be them just standing next to a pole, no contest. I've read these challenges take a lot longer in reality with going over the rules, they get longer to discuss etc. Then it gets edited.
It was a good challenge to watch. I think the natural inclination is to lock your elbows with the arms totally extended. In doing that you can use your entire body strength to hold one.
Dave actually did a good job holding on after he passed the last knot. That had to be really difficult to do and he hung in there for a good while.
I was so happy that Jaison bought the little bottle. I can just imagine how good that food looked to him but he made the decision to buy something that. Heck, the food looked good to me. But he did the right thing and I'm glad it worked out for him.
One thing that I miss in this season is winning a day with a local who teaches the tribe the secrets of getting food, etc. Food has simply not been that big of an issue this time around but the folks are obviously losing weight so I know they are hungry.
If I'm following you don't mean bend your elbow completely so the log is standing upright and has no weight?
Because bending your elbow partially would put a huge amount of strain on your bi-cep and it would be hard, very hard. Harder than leaning back a little to counterbalance the weight with a straight arm - at that point I think it becomes more about your hand.
You can use your own weight to try it out. Tie a rope to something and lean back. Try leaning back with your arm crooked and stay in that position.
I doubt they would have let then stand there with the poles upright - that would be them just standing next to a pole, no contest. I've read these challenges take a lot longer in reality with going over the rules, they get longer to discuss etc. Then it gets edited.
I mean bend it however much you have to. Since with the log properly balanced it has very little weight, it wouldn't strain your bicep at all. What begins to strain your bicep is if you let the log start falling. Suppose you stand rigid in front of me with a rope tied to your upper body. I hold the rope. Someone tells me to move my hand down the rope. Okay, fine. But I bend my elbow to compensate and remove the slack, because I can do that for many hours as long as I don't let you start leaning. Once I do, the strain begins. If I have you perfectly balanced, I can hold you up with one finger.
That's why I said that there must have been a rule we weren't shown. It can't really have been as easy as it looked. The players aren't all that stupid.
In challenges past when they had to stand on small poles or cleets sticking out of a piece of wood I often wondered if those could have caused permanent nerve damage in some. I bet they have to sign some kind of paper before leaving saying they will not hold Survivor responsible for any injuries.
In Dimple's blog this week he brought up a good point about Brett needing to go next. This kid has flown under the radar all season, has made no enemies and seems to be liked by all. He would be a big threat in the final 2 against anybody left playing because of it. Although if I were on the jury I would vote for the one that played the game and did work around camp most likely.
I still think Russell needs to go while the votes are still there or they will all live to regret it.
One thing about Russell not telling Shambo, he can turn that around and tell her he was doing it to protect her so that they didn't know the 2 of them were working together.
I think Russell and Shambo will be okay with each other either way.
Sham is the type of person that will not let anything go. She thinks her votes are needed by the old Foa-Foa. Russell worked with Dave, who she wanted off, to vote John off. If she finds out about that, she will target him from now on.
One thing about Russell not telling Shambo, he can turn that around and tell her he was doing it to protect her so that they didn't know the 2 of them were working together.
I think Russell and Shambo will be okay with each other either way.
Everybody left knows Shambo flipped when they merged. I agree Shambo is wanting people she doesn't like off instead of game playing. In life we all have to deal with people we don't like.
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I agree Shambo is wanting people she doesn't like off instead of game playing. In life we all have to deal with people we don't like.
