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Old 03-06-2012, 07:30 AM
 
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The only thing people i know can remember about Salmond is making bozo statements like if Scotland copies Icelands (pre-crash) economic model thats the way forward.

Other than that, he's a non-entity to most people in England. I wish Scotland independence, but fear for them if a moron like Salmond is their leader.
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Old 03-06-2012, 11:34 AM
 
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I remember when Salmond pointed to Ireland as an example of what an independent Scotland could aspire to.
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Old 03-09-2012, 08:43 PM
 
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I remember when Salmond pointed to Ireland as an example of what an independent Scotland could aspire to.
I wonder what he thinks with the Irish economy and government finances the way it is it is now?

This guy also thinks that Scotland should be subservient to the European Union ... why become independent if he is just going to hand Scotland over to the bureaucrats in Brussels? That alone should lead anyone to seriously question the idea of 'independence'.

Seriously, how does anyone take this guy seriously? Every plan, every idea the SNP comes up with for post-independence sustainability is flawed or impractical.
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Old 03-09-2012, 11:44 PM
 
Location: The Silver State (from the UK)
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I wonder what he thinks with the Irish economy and government finances the way it is it is now?

This guy also thinks that Scotland should be subservient to the European Union ... why become independent if he is just going to hand Scotland over to the bureaucrats in Brussels? That alone should lead anyone to seriously question the idea of 'independence'.

Seriously, how does anyone take this guy seriously? Every plan, every idea the SNP comes up with for post-independence sustainability is flawed or impractical.

Garbage. It's not about being subservient to the EU but being a member of the EU. Scotland could be a stronger member than the UK currently is, and at the end if the day, that could be a far stronger and more economically beneficial position that being 'subserviant' to Westminster. It's not that complicated.
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Old 03-09-2012, 11:48 PM
 
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The only thing people i know can remember about Salmond is making bozo statements like if Scotland copies Icelands (pre-crash) economic model thats the way forward.

Other than that, he's a non-entity to most people in England. I wish Scotland independence, but fear for them if a moron like Salmond is their leader.
And David Cameron is what? A great intellectual leader? Get real. Cameron is the most economically retarded leader I've heard in a generation. Anything Scotland could do to go in a different direction would be a good thing.
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Old 03-10-2012, 12:05 AM
 
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You've changed your tone massively Ian, you were against Scottish independence but now you appear to be for it.

Anyway, there is no denying that while Alex Salmond is a crafty politician, he is an idiot - I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him (and that wouldn't be possible)
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Old 03-10-2012, 12:10 AM
 
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Garbage. It's not about being subservient to the EU but being a member of the EU. Scotland could be a stronger member than the UK currently is, and at the end if the day, that could be a far stronger and more economically beneficial position that being 'subserviant' to Westminster. It's not that complicated.
LOL - could being the operative word here. If Scotland joined the EU, it would be obliged to join the Euro, Alex Salmonds' plan on retaining the pound sterling wouldn't work and he would have to sign Scotland up to the new EU fiscal contract, and sign over Scotland's sovereignty to a bureaucratic Brussels. Well done.

And come on, get off it, Scotland has a population smaller then London, it would not be a major world player or European player, especially not compared to the remaining union. In fact a London city-state would be far more influential then Scotland, and even the UK as a whole!

Sorry to sound abrupt here but honestly, what are you smoking? It's hard to have a debate with someone who cannot even stick to a story.
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Old 03-10-2012, 07:12 AM
 
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LOL - could being the operative word here. If Scotland joined the EU, it would be obliged to join the Euro, Alex Salmonds' plan on retaining the pound sterling wouldn't work and he would have to sign Scotland up to the new EU fiscal contract, and sign over Scotland's sovereignty to a bureaucratic Brussels. Well done.

And come on, get off it, Scotland has a population smaller then London, it would not be a major world player or European player, especially not compared to the remaining union. In fact a London city-state would be far more influential then Scotland, and even the UK as a whole!

Sorry to sound abrupt here but honestly, what are you smoking? It's hard to have a debate with someone who cannot even stick to a story.
Smoking whatever it is that Alex Salmond is smoking.

Don't even get me started on Jolly Alex's North Sea oil claims ... which he conveniently forgets to mention will run dry by the early 2020s ... can't fund an EU subservient Scandinavian style nanny state on empty oil deposits ...
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Old 03-10-2012, 08:57 AM
 
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You've changed your tone massively Ian, you were against Scottish independence but now you appear to be for it.

Anyway, there is no denying that while Alex Salmond is a crafty politician, he is an idiot - I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him (and that wouldn't be possible)

No I haven't. I'm for a strong united UK just as I am for a strong united EU. But, given Cameron's quest for a downward spiral into the recession abyss I can understand the Scottish argument for independence. I'm not for it at all. Its the same with Europe - the Euro is not a failure, but Europe's ability to be aligned politically.
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:03 AM
 
Location: The Silver State (from the UK)
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LOL - could being the operative word here. If Scotland joined the EU, it would be obliged to join the Euro, Alex Salmonds' plan on retaining the pound sterling wouldn't work and he would have to sign Scotland up to the new EU fiscal contract, and sign over Scotland's sovereignty to a bureaucratic Brussels. Well done.

And come on, get off it, Scotland has a population smaller then London, it would not be a major world player or European player, especially not compared to the remaining union. In fact a London city-state would be far more influential then Scotland, and even the UK as a whole!

Sorry to sound abrupt here but honestly, what are you smoking? It's hard to have a debate with someone who cannot even stick to a story.


I wish I was smoking, but its illegal where I live!

Scotland could be a strong player in Europe - why wouldn't it? The UK's financial industry is what gives it wealth but that is hardly secure. The deregulation (and others) policies coupled with massive over-leveraging and underway again under this government. The UK's influence is dwindling by the day - did you read any of the financial press yesterday? Unemployment stuck, homelessness rising, businesses closing etc etc etc
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