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Old 08-01-2012, 06:42 PM
 
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We did have a push toward becoming a Republic here in Australia, but none of the existing politicians wanted any would be president being elected by the people and having a strong moral mandate.
So we got the choice only of having existing politicians choosing a president in parliament, which of course would have seen some old tired political hack being chosen.
it was never gong to happen as the republicans couldn't come up with the correct model, the Sydney and Melbourne chardonnay set were at the forefront of republicanism at that time noticibly their origins were of Scottish and Irish backgrounds. Another time perhaps.

 
Old 08-01-2012, 07:57 PM
 
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We did have a push toward becoming a Republic here in Australia, but none of the existing politicians wanted any would be president being elected by the people and having a strong moral mandate.
So we got the choice only of having existing politicians choosing a president in parliament, which of course would have seen some old tired political hack being chosen.
What's the point of having a president if he or she isn't directly elected by the people? That doesn't make sense and is almost as undemocratic as having a monarch.

In Australia's case, I see why you'd have extra incentive to ditch the monarchy - incentive to cut ties with the UK?
 
Old 08-01-2012, 09:24 PM
 
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If Americans do not recognise royalty( not the Queen ) what were they doing saluting Prince Harry out of uniform in New York ?
Being polite by observing protocol?
 
Old 08-01-2012, 09:27 PM
 
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It's a line of succession.
The oldest male heir will take the throne. (Although I'd expect that to include females in the future)
Um...hasn't it included females all along? Including currently? What if Diana's oldest child (or both children) had been girls?
 
Old 08-01-2012, 10:03 PM
 
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Um...hasn't it included females all along? Including currently? What if Diana's oldest child (or both children) had been girls?
No, not until recently. See here:

BBC News - Girls equal in British throne succession
 
Old 08-02-2012, 12:09 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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the elder girl would have been queen...
 
Old 08-02-2012, 12:59 AM
 
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the elder girl would have been queen...

Only if their was no male heir.


The law has been changed, and now the oldest female child has the full right to be Queen, even if she has a younger brother (who she would traditionally have to step aside for). The previous centuries-old law only supported a boys right to the throne

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Old 08-02-2012, 01:57 AM
 
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Only if their was no male heir.


The law has been changed, and now the oldest female child has the full right to be Queen, even if she has a younger brother (who she would traditionally have to step aside for). The previous centuries-old law only supported a boys right to the throne
what I meant of course Kangaroofarmer.
 
Old 08-02-2012, 01:59 AM
 
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no one is forced to do this at the Queen Jubilee...
 
Old 08-02-2012, 02:39 AM
 
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Um...hasn't it included females all along? Including currently? What if Diana's oldest child (or both children) had been girls?
Under the rules, if they were both girls, and there was no male child, the oldest girl would take the throne, but if they'd had two older girls and a young son, the son would have inhereited the crown.

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No, not until recently. See here:

BBC News - Girls equal in British throne succession

I didn't know they'd changed the law of succession already.
I guess you learn something new every day !
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