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if you do move, you should consider rescinding the US citizenship. US is the only country that taxes ALL of their citizen's WORLDWIDE income, regardless of whether they live/work in the USA or not, whether the company you work for is based in the US or not.. if its income, you'll get taxed... it gets worse because you'll get taxed in the UK too.
Think long and hard before you do, because once you voluntarily renounce your US Citizenship, it's impossible to get back. You'd also need to check to see whether you could still travel to the US under the VWP as a former citizen, that would suck if you can't, because then you'd need to get approval from a Consul/Ambassador to re-enter the US (which is not guaranteed, but discretionary).
As far as taxation, you only get taxed if at all on your after tax earnings from that country, if you exceed a threshold that compares a differential on the local tax rates and US tax rates. I can't imagine that with the discrepancy of tax rates between US and UK that it would be possible to be taxed in both places unless you've got a vast income from investments or similar. It's basically preventing tax exile status, so you can't gain as a US Citizen by living abroad to take advantage of lower tax rates. A friend I have moved in the past couple of years to Basel, his US tax return didn't require any payment, since his taxes paid to Switzerland exceeded the payments he would have made to the US. One final point is it doesn't eliminate tax obligations either, the IRS can still pursue you for taxes, it may be impossible to enforce if you're outside the US and not be a deportable offense in the country you're living in, but the moment your foot hit US Soil, you'd be arrested and most likely imprisoned.
Of course not giving it up means you need to keep up on US tax laws, but you do have the advantage of having a US Passport, and all rights and privileges thereof.
We in the UK can get Green cards - Northern Ireland people. But not GB. I am saying your are incorrect because you said you need to prove that you have $90,000 which is incorrect because as far as i'm aware even to get a green card you only have to prove that you have $10,000.
Some people who immigrate to America aren't even middle class so they will not have that money. The people who get in don't always have to prove money I don't think, for example, if you come in through a grandparent you don't need to prove.
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We in the UK can get Green cards - Northern Ireland people. But not GB. I am saying your are incorrect because you said you need to prove that you have $90,000 which is incorrect because as far as i'm aware even to get a green card you only have to prove that you have $10,000.
Some people who immigrate to America aren't even middle class so they will not have that money. The people who get in don't always have to prove money I don't think, for example, if you come in through a grandparent you don't need to prove.
People from the UK can get US Green cards (and there are various requirements that need to be met to receive one, including lots and lots of patience)...
People from the US cannot get UK Green Cards, since they do not exist (at least as far as I'm aware they certainly didn't in 2000 when I left). There are various immigrant visa's but not a "green card".
I think this was the point Ameriscot was trying to make.
People from the UK can get US Green cards (and there are various requirements that need to be met to receive one, including lots and lots of patience)...
People from the US cannot get UK Green Cards, since they do not exist (at least as far as I'm aware they certainly didn't in 2000 when I left). There are various immigrant visa's but not a "green card".
I think this was the point Ameriscot was trying to make.
Actually, there is no such thing as a "green card". It's a permanent resident card, and there is a British equivalent but its a sticker in your passport.
Actually, there is no such thing as a "green card". It's a permanent resident card, and there is a British equivalent but its a sticker in your passport.
Yeah the Brit equivalent is called Indefinite Leave to Remain or IRL for short
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Originally Posted by Gungnir
People from the UK can get US Green cards (and there are various requirements that need to be met to receive one, including lots and lots of patience)...
People from the US cannot get UK Green Cards, since they do not exist (at least as far as I'm aware they certainly didn't in 2000 when I left). There are various immigrant visa's but not a "green card".
I think this was the point Ameriscot was trying to make.
What owenc is saying is that people born in Northern Ireland are eligible to apply for the Diversity Lottery green card program, but not people born in Great Britain (for those that don't know, Great Britain is Scotland+England+Wales-Northern Ireland)
Actually, there is no such thing as a "green card". It's a permanent resident card, and there is a British equivalent but its a sticker in your passport.
Really? Are you going to tell me there's also no such thing as a "quid" it's a Pound next? USCIS - Green Card
You better get on to them and tell them there's no such thing as a green card too, I mean what would the United States Citizen and Immigrant Services know about whether there is or is not a Green Card? What are they thinking...?
Sarcasm aside yes technically you're correct, there is "no such thing as a green card" It's actually a "Legal Permanent Resident" card (LPR). However Everyone knows it as a green card. If you state you have LPR status most people (not familiar with immigration law) haven't got a clue what you're talking about, but they know what you're talking about if you say you have a Green Card.
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Yeah the Brit equivalent is called Indefinite Leave to Remain or IRL for short
Then what is "Right to Abode", because that's available too. Neither are known as a "Green Card" though.
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What owenc is saying is that people born in Northern Ireland are eligible to apply for the Diversity Lottery green card program, but not people born in Great Britain (for those that don't know, Great Britain is Scotland+England+Wales-Northern Ireland)
Yes NI natives are eligible to enter the DV lottery, the DV 2014 instructions states United Kingdom (except Northern Ireland) are restricted from entry.
However that's all nice and all, but what's it got to do with the OP (a dual national US/UK) thinking of moving to the UK?
Then what is "Right to Abode", because that's available too. Neither are known as a "Green Card" though.
I believe Right to Abode is only available for British Overseas Territory Citizens and British Subjects before the 1980s (1983 I believe) Immigration act went into effect.
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