Northern Ireland reunification with Republic of Ireland (mover, safety)
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Is OP even Irish? He seems to take a hardline, pro-Republican view on just about everything.
From my experience, people of that kind are normally Irish Americans, people from Ireland itself tend to be far more moderate on the whole.
Or as we call 'em, a Plastic Paddy or Shiny Seamus.
Sat in their local " Irish " bar drinking Kilkenny Smooth or some other aberration that no ordinary Irishman would be seen dead drinking.
Their party piece is The Wild Rover,normally sang late at night when everyone else has gone home but they're in their cups at the end of the bar.
They think of themselves as experts on the nuances and hearbeats of life in Ireland based on the occasional vacation spent kissing the Blarney Stone or supping a few pints in Doheny and Nesbitts.
Ask them the price of a pint of milk or a loaf of bread and you might as well be talking to the wall behind them.
Barstool Republicans with not an iota of knowledge about real life in Ireland and with the brains of a rocking horse.
My local in Ireland sees them on Trad Music Night.Their great great grandfather was shipped out from Ireland as a common criminal and now their descendants are over to investigate their heritage.
Three pints of stout and they're talking gibberish.The locals humour them because the dollars are good for business but behind their backs they view them with contempt.
We know who they are.
Last edited by Roscoe Conkling; 08-22-2017 at 04:14 PM..
Or as we call 'em, a Plastic Paddy or Shiny Seamus.
Sat in their local " Irish " bar drinking Kilkenny Smooth or some other aberration that no ordinary Irishman would be seen dead drinking.
Their party piece is The Wild Rover,normally sang late at night when everyone else has gone home but they're in their cups at the end of the bar.
They think of themselves as experts on the nuances and hearbeats of life in Ireland based on the occasional vacation spent kissing the Blarney Stone or supping a few pints in Doheny and Nesbitts.
Ask them the price of a pint of milk or a loaf of bread and you might as well be talking to the wall behind them.
Barstool Republicans with not an iota of knowledge about real life in Ireland and with the brains of a rocking horse.
My local in Ireland sees them on Trad Music Night.Their great great grandfather was shipped out from Ireland as a common criminal and now their descendants are over to investigate their heritage.
Three pints of stout and they're talking gibberish.The locals humour them because the dollars are good for business but behind their backs they view them with contempt.
We know who they are.
Roscoe I don't think Victor has claimed any Irish ancestry so not sure why the lecture about "Plastic Paddies" or the relevance really. Why not stick to the topic instead of trying to go down an imaginary road? You don't know people's personal histories.
There was video on YT a couple of weeks ago which showed children dancing and singing to a song which included hate words against the Queen and also F... your flag. Time to move on ..yes, but not for some it seems. Some of the kids were as young as six or seven.
yes , loyalists would never ever denigrate a foreign flag
The reason why they "gave up the bullet for the ballot box" is because British intelligence had infiltrated every level of the IRA and had collected enough material bring down the entire leadership. Contrary to what you seem to believe, the IRA didn't lead the way towards peace, they were practically forced to lay down their arms.
The like of Martin McGuiness and other leaders were given a choice, continue fighting and eventually face justice, or lay down down their arms and commit to a political peace process. Yes, their involvement allowed the peace process to happen, but that doesn't mean we have to respect them or what they stand for.
senior british commanders have stated that while the IRA could not have forced a withdrawl , the british army could not have " won " either , the british state was ( at least for a period ) at war with its own citizens in northern ireland , with an enviroment like that , "victory" is impossible
yes , loyalists would never ever denigrate a foreign flag
I never once defended the denigration of a foreign flag ie the tricolour. Loyalists have been as bad as Damien and his crowd have but the Irish have always played it as the 'put upon' people, who are not like those 'bigoted loyalists. Now we and others can see them in their true colours for what they really are... as bigoted as the rest.
senior british commanders have stated that while the IRA could not have forced a withdrawl , the british army could not have " won " either , the british state was ( at least for a period ) at war with its own citizens in northern ireland , with an enviroment like that , "victory" is impossible
The British could easily have won if they had threw their full resources at the republican gunmen and their supporters but world opinion would be against them, and of course Washington too. And anyway republicans and the Irish in general would go into mope mode..repressed,suppressed and oppressed which they are brilliant at.
I never once defended the denigration of a foreign flag ie the tricolour. Loyalists have been as bad as Damien and his crowd have but the Irish have always played it as the 'put upon' people, who are not like those 'bigoted loyalists. Now we and others can see them in their true colours for what they really are... as bigoted as the rest.
your people ulsterman are a lot more hung up about religon than the irish side , the catholics dont give that much thought to theological differences , sectarianism obviously happens against protestants but its a lot more prevalent going the other way as protestantism and unionism are much more inextricably linked politically than catholicism and irish nationalism , the rebels of 1916 were not hardcore catholics and the IRA of adams era certainly were not
The British could easily have won if they had threw their full resources at the republican gunmen and their supporters but world opinion would be against them, and of course Washington too. And anyway republicans and the Irish in general would go into mope mode..repressed,suppressed and oppressed which they are brilliant at.
every force with a brain uses propoganda , you can hardly criticise republicans for that , the irish are a political force in the usa , not to the degree israel is or the uk but important enough for any president to have a word in the ear of whoever sits in number 10 , europe would not really want a kosovo style situation in ireland either , one thing having that kind of conflict in eastern europe , western europe demands a more civilised approach , the uk was never going to get away with dealing with the issue like russia did in syria earlier this year
your people ulsterman are a lot more hung up about religon than the irish side , the catholics dont give that much thought to theological differences , sectarianism obviously happens against protestants but its a lot more prevalent going the other way as protestantism and unionism are much more inextricably linked politically than catholicism and irish nationalism , the rebels of 1916 were not hardcore catholics and the IRA of adams era certainly were not
That's a nonsense. The RC church was very heavily involved with Irish nationalism.
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