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Having looked at all the information, they calculated that "6.8% of the UK's land area is now classified as urban" (a definition that includes rural development and roads, by the way). The urban landscape accounts for 10.6% of England, 1.9% of Scotland, 3.6% of Northern Ireland and 4.1% of Wales.
Hard to compare exactly since it's different standards, but it sure isn't continuous development. Note the photo of the subsdivsion at the end of the article:
We're in suburbia. To get to the nearest bus stop we'd have to walk quite a way, though less than 1 mile. This is less than ideal especially in the winter time. And it undoubtedly multiplies the amount of time it would take to work. At the same time, it also fights the same traffic on the roads. Bicycling is another option for some, but working up a sweat just before work is also not ideal. No, there are no showers.
Mass transit was just not designed very well and the infrastructure doesn't allow a lot of growth around here. Everything was built up in the 50s when the population was not as great. Being a burb of NYC, it just exploded uncontrollably.
We're in suburbia. To get to the nearest bus stop we'd have to walk quite a way, though less than 1 mile. This is less than ideal especially in the winter time. And it undoubtedly multiplies the amount of time it would take to work. At the same time, it also fights the same traffic on the roads. Bicycling is another option for some, but working up a sweat just before work is also not ideal. No, there are no showers.
Mass transit was just not designed very well and the infrastructure doesn't allow a lot of growth around here. Everything was built up in the 50s when the population was not as great. Being a burb of NYC, it just exploded uncontrollably.
That sounds like a good example of poor or no planning at all. This country has too many places that are like that.
That sounds like a good example of poor or no planning at all. This country has too many places that are like that.
Do you even understand the planning process a subdivision needs to go through to get built? Have you ever attended a planning board meeting or a city council meeting in a suburban city? "Less than a mile" is not that bad of a walk if you're going to work for the whole day. The walk to the bus should take about 20 min. Of course taking mass transit takes longer, usually, than driving one's person vehicle.
How is it bad urban planning for the poster to live too far from work to walk/ride a bike comfortably? Whose "fault" is that?
Do you even understand the planning process a subdivision needs to go through to get built? Have you ever attended a planning board meeting or a city council meeting in a suburban city? "Less than a mile" is not that bad of a walk if you're going to work for the whole day. The walk to the bus should take about 20 min. Of course taking mass transit takes longer, usually, than driving one's person vehicle.
How is it bad urban planning for the poster to live too far from work to walk/ride a bike comfortably? Whose "fault" is that?
20 minutes is long if you have a long bus ride on top of it. A lot of Long Island, is yes, planned quite poorly for convenient transit use or walking. Some of it would have required it to be built differently in ways the locals probably didn't want (see adjacent Queens, NY which has far less walkabilty/transit issues — zoning prevents Long Island from being similar to Queens) others less so more zoning of commercial establishments and more pedestrian friendly road design.
For one, Long Island towns zoned out most denser housing where transit could work decently. Newer business establishment in fairly pedestrian unfriendly areas or just inconvenient to get to the old towns. Some compromise could have been planned for. It wasn't.
A 15-minute walk to a bus stop sounds pretty typical, no matter where you live.
Really? That's a rather low standard. Larger, denser cities have them much closer and probably some denser suburbs. I've usually had them within a 5 minute walk living here.
Do you even understand the planning process a subdivision needs to go through to get built? Have you ever attended a planning board meeting or a city council meeting in a suburban city? "Less than a mile" is not that bad of a walk if you're going to work for the whole day. The walk to the bus should take about 20 min. Of course taking mass transit takes longer, usually, than driving one's person vehicle.
How is it bad urban planning for the poster to live too far from work to walk/ride a bike comfortably? Whose "fault" is that?
Actually I have been to planning meetings before, they have gotten much better than they use to be when developers use to have much more freedom with the design of a subdevelopment.
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