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on the city boards here at citydata (esp NYC and DC) I hear a lot of complaints from gentrifiers as well as in real life. When gentrifiers first reach a community, they dont like the locals, they dont like the noise, they dont like people hanging out on their stoops, the bodegas, the local carry outs or any of that. as we all know if they reach critical mass they send the cops after people who hang out, they file noise complaint after noise complaint against the block parties, the loud music blasting from cars, rent skyrockets, and expensive eateries and grocery stores move in.
But then after the locals are long gone, and the neighborhood fits the gentrifiers taste, the complaints dont stop. Now the neighborhood is too sterile, too many bankers and bros in the area, its too expensive, the people are too uptight, its too quiet, and my absolute favorite "the neighborhood has no culture!!!"
So this leads me to ask.......what kind of culture are these people expecting???? Do you wnat urban grit or do you want a more urban version of the quiet homogenous suburbs most of these people come from?????
then why move to a neighborhood full of ppl you dont like???
Maybe to be closer to work (I'm guilty of this) or maybe to be near the best park in town (also guilty) or close to downtown cultural amenities just outside the neighborhood (guilty again).
There is a perception that gentrifiers want to be part of the dominant culture in a particular neighborhood when in fact there are a myriad other reasons they buy where they do.
And "full of ppl you don't like" does not apply to me as I would say my new neighbors aren't on the whole any better or worse than my old ones.
on the city boards here at citydata (esp NYC and DC) I hear a lot of complaints from gentrifiers as well as in real life. When gentrifiers first reach a community, they dont like the locals, they dont like the noise, they dont like people hanging out on their stoops, the bodegas, the local carry outs or any of that. as we all know if they reach critical mass they send the cops after people who hang out, they file noise complaint after noise complaint against the block parties, the loud music blasting from cars, rent skyrockets, and expensive eateries and grocery stores move in.
But then after the locals are long gone, and the neighborhood fits the gentrifiers taste, the complaints dont stop. Now the neighborhood is too sterile, too many bankers and bros in the area, its too expensive, the people are too uptight, its too quiet, and my absolute favorite "the neighborhood has no culture!!!"
So this leads me to ask.......what kind of culture are these people expecting???? Do you wnat urban grit or do you want a more urban version of the quiet homogenous suburbs most of these people come from?????
Local urban people are not as educated as the transient types who have moved to NYC and DC in recent years. I hope Trump can fix middle America soon so that jobs can flourish in Middle America thus making less folks move to big cities for employment.
then why move to a neighborhood full of ppl you dont like???
People who are financially challenged often have to settle for what's available. Many people live in neighborhoods full of ppl they don't like, for lack of better options.
This has been happening where I live. For example one of the most popular areas for newbies is around the Lake - which functions as a park / rec center / everyone's backyard. In the past couple of years it has been nicely renovated and is more popular than ever. Historically it has been home to weekend bbqs, imporomptu concerts, soccer games. You know typical popular stuff.
There is a recurring theme of newcomers calling the cops on the impromptu concerts.
1. These complainers have Lake views and lakefront apartments. So it would have been 100% obvious they might hear noise from the park when they moved in.
2. The park / lake area quiets down when the sunsets and there are just casual walkers and joggers. The bbqs / festivals / concerts are in the day time when they happen. Aka at reasonable hours.
Everyone was really annoyed at these people moving into a vibrant area - likely because of the vibrancy and complaining. Especially when they could have made a different choice if they were concerned with noise. Why live on the main street? There is plenty of inventory on the quiet interior streets, obviously without a lake view. The new people are just whiny brats.
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