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Old 03-03-2011, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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That is not a complete picture. Sorry, but based on your postings, I insist that you don't know the city as well as you claim to. Oxnard's disparate parts are almost like completely different cities. The place is too big and varied to paint with one broad brush, as in "the median household income is..." and call it a day.
Again, I never suggested it was a "complete picture", I'm talking about statistical distributions. If you looked at the distribution of income (or socioeconomic status) in Oxnard you'd see a more or less normal distribution (i.e., bell curve) where the majority have working-class incomes. What you're saying doesn't conflict with this at all.

Analyzing a population via statistical analysis isn't problematic at all, that is the purpose of statistics, you could do the same analysis for the entire country. You'd actually find a similar result, the US as a whole has a working-class majority.

As I said, you appear to be interpreting statistical claims as universal claims. The two are rather distinct.
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Old 03-03-2011, 06:03 PM
 
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ROFLMAO...FYI I started this thread. I visited and I have found a few properties that I like an may buy..........thank you all xo
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Old 03-03-2011, 06:21 PM
 
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Yes, they are different. I misspoke in using "average." Meaning and thinking was "median."



That is not a complete picture. Sorry, but based on your postings, I insist that you don't know the city as well as you claim to. Oxnard's disparate parts are almost like completely different cities. The place is too big and varied to paint with one broad brush, as in "the median household income is..." and call it a day.
Winston, friendly advice, you will never get the last word in. user_id is a kid, just let him be. You aren't going to change his mind and he is not going to change yours. The rest of us are just sick and tired of it. Keep your useful and helpful information coming, just don't feel you have to convince user_id of anything.
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Old 03-03-2011, 09:12 PM
 
Location: In a room above Mr. Charrington's shop
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Winston, friendly advice, you will never get the last word in. user_id is a kid, just let him be. You aren't going to change his mind and he is not going to change yours. The rest of us are just sick and tired of it. Keep your useful and helpful information coming, just don't feel you have to convince user_id of anything.
I know, but a part of me is having sadistic fun. But let's move on now.
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Old 03-03-2011, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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DowntownVentura, friendly advice, you can send private messages on city-data. Yes, I know, you wouldn't be able to childishly (indirectly) insult others if you commented privately, but that's life.

Anyhow, these sorts of fallacies have no place in civilized discourse. If you folks have no interest in my commentary then please use the ignore feature, its odd that you speak about it so much yet don't use it.
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Old 03-03-2011, 10:24 PM
 
Location: In a room above Mr. Charrington's shop
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Winston, friendly advice, you will never get the last word in. user_id is a kid, just let him be. You aren't going to change his mind and he is not going to change yours. The rest of us are just sick and tired of it. Keep your useful and helpful information coming, just don't feel you have to convince user_id of anything.
By the way, to make sure I behave myself, I've again engaged the "ignore user(_id)" feature. This time I'll try not to disengage it.
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Old 03-04-2011, 06:00 AM
 
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DITTO Winston Smith........ROFLMAO I have to laugh about this Other Poster.../ person after reading there other posts on other threads BTW in two years they posted over 5700 posts.....TOTAL RIOT.........someone needs to take allllllllll that debating time an find a place to volunteer and help others in a better way.
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Old 03-04-2011, 12:28 PM
 
Location: In a room above Mr. Charrington's shop
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...someone needs to take allllllllll that debating time an find a place to volunteer and help others in a better way.
Hoh, jeesh, I never thought of it like that -- the cumulative time spent, year upon year, stomping good threads down a rabbit hole.

That's it, I'm getting up and away from the computer now. In the mean time, back to the topic of PH and other beach-front properties.
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Old 03-04-2011, 03:13 PM
 
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I was very impressed with the properties,very reasonable. I even looked at some very nice moblie homes.
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Old 03-05-2011, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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Right places take deposits, but its a deposit and you get it back. Your first months rent is..well rent. That isn't a transaction cost. The cost to move from rental to rental is cheap, its pocket change. On the other hand buying and selling a home has huge transaction costs, you'll pay 4~6% to sell your home and you'll pay ~$10k in closing costs and indirectly pay the commission home you are purchasing as well.


Because your circumstances change, life isn't predictable and its least predictable when your young.
I am thinking that the differance between us is that I am established in what I am doing and where I am working. I don't have a need to move on to other locals or jobs. I can stay where I am for the next 30 years or so and be fine with that. We have no need to move and buying a home gives us what we are looking for in a life. From listening to you that doesn't fit into your lifestyle at this time in your life.

As far as getting back a deposit, I have never recieved a deposit back in 20 years of renting. At the last 2 places that I lived at you could clean, paint, and replace the carpet and they would still find a way to ding you for the deposit money. LOL And we were long term renters.

Truthfully that is not the case, I could have painted and replaced the carpet and recieved the money back. Just was cheaper to let them keep the deposit. We saw it as a cost of renting. As far as moving, renting a moving truck and equipment to move can add to the overall cost. Our UHaul and moving equipment cost us about $100 when all was said and done.

As far as paying anything to sell our home, we never plan on selling it. I always thought that Warren Buffet had the right idea. He is still in the same home after decades. My parents on the other hand have owned 2 homes. One for 38 years and the other for close to 8 years.

Just our experience and isn't meant to prove anything. LOL
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