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Old 02-09-2012, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Infernuan
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Does anyone on this forum even actually live in DC?
Nope and proud of it. DC can have its crime and grime.
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Old 02-09-2012, 02:07 PM
 
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Also lets be real. Immigrants tend not to have the incomes needed to move to the desirable places in DC. Their incomes would regulate them into neighborhoods dominated by poor and working class Blacks. Who don't have a reputation for educational excellence and the areas they reside in are prone to higher rates of violent crime.

My guess is many immigrants want to prevent their children from being victims of abuse.
Can Philadelphia school end black vs. Asian violence? - USATODAY.com
I don't know if it has as much to do with race as much as it relates to values. Any individual or group who chooses to pursue or promote academic growth will always be preferred targets for those who've elected to abadon such pursuits and contend for a life of misdeeds. That article raises the issue of Asians vs. Blacks, but the same problems plague monoethnic and monoculture communities, but those cases tend to be understated and oversimplified.
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Old 02-09-2012, 02:18 PM
 
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Nope and proud of it. DC can have its crime and grime.
That's what gated estates are for. duh.
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Old 02-09-2012, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Rockville, MD
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Does anyone on this forum even actually live in DC?
I did until very recently. My hope is that we'll be able to move back in the not-too-distant-future.
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Old 02-09-2012, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Infernuan
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That's what gated estates are for. duh.
Sorry, some of us are just too 'regular' for dems places, sheesh!
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Old 02-09-2012, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Rockville, MD
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Sorry, some of us are just too 'regular' for dems places, sheesh!
So you are forced to live among the great unwashed?

<shudder>
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Old 02-09-2012, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Infernuan
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So you are forced to live among the great unwashed?

<shudder>
Yeah, well, it beats living in a rathole in SE or NE or having to deal with roommates (definite SHUDDER). Why do that when I can live in the burbs in a NICE apartment with DECENT rent AND not have to deal with the noise, crime, and 20-something partiers and their antics? Sure, the commute may suck at times but hey sometimes a little sacrificing can be a good thing in the long run.
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Old 02-09-2012, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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And high-density development close to public transportation is EXPENSIVE everywhere. It's expensive in Rockville. It's expensive in Silver Spring. It's expensive in any suburban city where you have public transit lines and large retail clusters. Well...no wonder why real estate developers were building miles and miles of cul-de-sacs on farm land near Frederick, MD. I mean...if two-bedroom condos in downtown Rockville are going for $550,000 then I mind as well a buy a HOUSE with a YARD and a GARAGE for $375,000 in Frederick.
This is true. My ex co-worker and her boyfriend paid $3,400 to live in one of those buildings in Downtown Bethesda near the Metro. And it was a one-bedroom apartment (plus den). Given the small number of people who can afford to live near Metro stations, I don't see how TOD is going to relieve traffic congestion. It's a drop in the bucket.

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What has changed is that the relative demand for McMansions is declining, while the relative demand for denser housing is increasing.
Do you have studies on this? I'm curious about the profiles of those demanding higher-density housing. Some people suspect that greater demand for higher-density housing reflects a value shift from more traditional suburban living, but I wonder if the demand for "traditional" housing is only weaker because the people who typically demand it have been hardest hit by the recession.

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Old 02-09-2012, 04:55 PM
 
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Do you have studies on this? I'm curious about the profiles of those demanding higher-density housing. Some people suspect that greater demand for higher-density housing reflects a value shift from more traditional suburban living, but I wonder if the demand for "traditional" housing is only weaker because the people who typically demand it have been hardest hit by the recession.
In a 2010 report, Brookings - an advocate of higher-density housing - called that development "at least a temporary retreat from the longer-run march toward outer suburbia and lower-density metropolitan areas" that was induced by the "bursting of the housing bubble" and the recession that followed. It added that whether a move toward higher-density housing would persist in the current decade "will depend on a range of factors."

In other words, it said the jury was still out.
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Old 02-09-2012, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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Does anyone on this forum even actually live in DC?
Grew up for like 3 years in DC, lived at my dad's in DC 2010-2011 (academic year), and now my mom also lives in DC. I mostly grew up in MoCo and now live in PG. Not a single day spent as a resident of Virginia :P
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