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Old 02-13-2014, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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...which is an astounding statistic. Here's a list of a few U.S. cities showing the educational attainment (Bachelor's or higher for the population over 25) and the median HHI among the White, non-Hispanic population.

San Francisco (70.95%/$95,011)
Washington, DC (76.98%/$108,629)
Atlanta (76.16%/$84,036)
Chicago (55.99%/$68,254)
Boston (62.29%/$71,625)
New York (52.15%/$72,295)
Portland (47.58%/$55,403)
Philadelphia (34.80%/$50,164)
Austin (59.29%/$63,670)
Los Angeles (51.8%/$67,252)
Seattle (63.8%/$71,393)
Houston (52.8%/$71,908)

DC leads the pack in educational attainment (and in median HHI by a large margin). This got me to thinking though. Who are the white people in DC that don't have college degrees? I had to ponder this question for a while since I honestly can't say I've ever met a white person in Washington, DC who didn't have a college degree. A few things came to mind...

College dropouts in "creative" jobs (e.g., graphic design, artists, poets, etc.)

Police officers/EMS/firefighters. I imagine most of these guys live in the burbs though.

Bartenders, DJs, club types (think 9:30 Club bouncers)

Elderly people.

How often do you come across a white person living in DC that doesn't have a college degree?
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Old 02-13-2014, 08:59 AM
 
Location: DC
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Why is that a surprise? We have no heavy industry to support blue collar jobs.
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Old 02-13-2014, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Why is that a surprise? We have no heavy industry to support blue collar jobs.
I didn't say it was a surprise. I just asked who are the other 23% without a college degree.
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Old 02-13-2014, 09:10 AM
 
Location: DC
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I didn't say it was a surprise. I just asked who are the other 23% without a college degree.
Starbuck clerks.
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Old 02-13-2014, 09:49 AM
 
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Very interesting data; particularly when you compare it to other metropolitan areas.Boston's educational attainment almost 15 percentage points lower than DC's? New York's median HH income only 72k despite it being the most expensive metro in the country?... Good stuff.
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Old 02-13-2014, 11:10 AM
 
Location: DC
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...which is an astounding statistic. Here's a list of a few U.S. cities showing the educational attainment (Bachelor's or higher for the population over 25) and the median HHI among the White, non-Hispanic population.

San Francisco (70.95%/$95,011)
Washington, DC (76.98%/$108,629)
Atlanta (76.16%/$84,036)
Chicago (55.99%/$68,254)
Boston (62.29%/$71,625)
New York (52.15%/$72,295)
Portland (47.58%/$55,403)
Philadelphia (34.80%/$50,164)
Austin (59.29%/$63,670)
Los Angeles (51.8%/$67,252)
Seattle (63.8%/$71,393)
Houston (52.8%/$71,908)

DC leads the pack in educational attainment (and in median HHI by a large margin). This got me to thinking though. Who are the white people in DC that don't have college degrees? I had to ponder this question for a while since I honestly can't say I've ever met a white person in Washington, DC who didn't have a college degree. A few things came to mind...

College dropouts in "creative" jobs (e.g., graphic design, artists, poets, etc.)

Police officers/EMS/firefighters. I imagine most of these guys live in the burbs though.

Bartenders, DJs, club types (think 9:30 Club bouncers)

Elderly people.

How often do you come across a white person living in DC that doesn't have a college degree?
They are often college students, or adult kids living with their parents, maybe partners of the older set. I have not met many who are white who live in the district without a college education and are white.

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Old 02-13-2014, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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New York's median HH income only 72k despite it being the most expensive metro in the country?
The data is just for the Five Boroughs...though DC has higher HHI than the NYC metro too. That's because NYC has more of everything. There are more rich people, more poor people, more homeless people, more black people, more Africans, more white people, etc. New York has pretty much everything on a massive scale. A lot of the wealth in NYC is concentrated in areas that are small relative to the metro area but large compared to DC. So if you're walking around Manhattan south of 110th Street, it's easy to get the impression that NYC is dominated by millionaires.
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Old 02-13-2014, 12:19 PM
 
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Can you explain what HHI stands for? house hold income?

I don't know anyone, at least under 30, who makes even half of your quoted salary of 108k. Wow, where are all those jobs?? I guess those numbers must be skewed by a small percentage that earns tons (I did meet half a dozen or so people making 200-250+K a year) but met x100 who are in the 30-50K. But I guess the few who make a lot are enough to skew the numbers up to 108K. I just wonder what the numbers are without the top 5-10% earners
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Old 02-13-2014, 01:01 PM
 
Location: DC
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Can you explain what HHI stands for? house hold income?

I don't know anyone, at least under 30, who makes even half of your quoted salary of 108k. Wow, where are all those jobs?? I guess those numbers must be skewed by a small percentage that earns tons (I did meet half a dozen or so people making 200-250+K a year) but met x100 who are in the 30-50K. But I guess the few who make a lot are enough to skew the numbers up to 108K. I just wonder what the numbers are without the top 5-10% earners
HHI is house hold income. This is the median, and many are two earners. So this is not "skewed" by any means, this is not the top 5-10% in the district...it is pretty close to normal. A two household couple where both are making over $50K this is pretty easy. There are plenty of GS12 households in DC...so think $70K plus for both earners.
Trust me, I know plenty who earn $100K a year too and live on their own. Usually not much more than that, but you get households where one is earning $100K and the other is earning around $70K depending on their professions.

Honestly speaking other than the nonprofit set I don't meet many people with college educations who make less than $60K in DC.
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Old 02-13-2014, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Belgrade, Serbia
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Thanks for the info.

College degree and not quite 40K, know of plenty of us around..Where can I find a 60K job? Would love it, don't seem to be too plentiful from my searches. That salary sounds lovely. The extra 20K boost in earnings would be pure savings for me.
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