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View Poll Results: Is DC north, south, or mid-atlantic?
North obviously!!! 5 6.02%
North, but not NY 13 15.66%
MId-atlantic! Why are people against Mid-atlantic choicing? 57 68.67%
South, but not SC 6 7.23%
Was, is, and will always be the south? 2 2.41%
Voters: 83. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-25-2016, 06:57 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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I was born in Alexandria and have lived here off and on for 65 years. And I can guarantee you that Alexandria is not a southern city (the statue of the confederate soldier on South Washington Street notwithstanding). Almost no one speaks with a southern accent, no one displays the confederate flag, the city leans to the liberal side politically, and good barbecue joints are hard to find.
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Old 04-25-2016, 07:04 AM
 
Location: West Hollywood, CA from Arlington, VA
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I was born in Alexandria and have lived here off and on for 65 years. And I can guarantee you that Alexandria is not a southern city (the statue of the confederate soldier on South Washington Street notwithstanding). Almost no one speaks with a southern accent, no one displays the confederate flag, the city leans to the liberal side politically, and good barbecue joints are hard to find.
I didn't say it was. The city was founded in the 1700s and American cities that sold slaves on the corner are not northern. Of course it's changed, but the city was founded in the 1700s. The row homes were built in the 1700s. It's completely illogical and you would fail the bar to say that because Alexandria is northern now -- the rowhomes built in the 1700s were not built in a southern city.

Not to mention, there are million other cities in the south that have row homes.
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Old 04-25-2016, 07:35 AM
 
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It is the embodiment of the contemporary meaning of the mid-Atlantic region, where North and South meet. Specifically, I see it as a city with contemporary Northern culture against a historically Southern backdrop.
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Old 04-25-2016, 07:38 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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I didn't say it was. The city was founded in the 1700s and American cities that sold slaves on the corner are not northern. Of course it's changed, but the city was founded in the 1700s. The row homes were built in the 1700s. It's completely illogical and you would fail the bar to say that because Alexandria is northern now -- the rowhomes built in the 1700s were not built in a southern city.

Not to mention, there are million other cities in the south that have row homes.
Many of the row houses in Alexandria were built in the early and mid 1900s. The houses along Powhatan St., S. Royal near the bridge, Del Ray, Arlandria, etc. Also, except for eastern seaboard towns like Savannah there are practically no southern cities with row houses. Certainly not in Atlanta, Charlotte, Birmingham, Memphis, Little Rock, etc. Even the shotgun houses of New Orleans are technically not row houses.
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Old 04-25-2016, 07:38 AM
 
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I didn't say it was. The city was founded in the 1700s and American cities that sold slaves on the corner are not northern. Of course it's changed, but the city was founded in the 1700s. The row homes were built in the 1700s. It's completely illogical and you would fail the bar to say that because Alexandria is northern now -- the rowhomes built in the 1700s were not built in a southern city.

Not to mention, there are million other cities in the south that have row homes.
Not really. The only other ones are other VA cities like Richmond, Savannah, and New Orleans. Charleston has a few...perhaps Louisville does too. And that's it.
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Old 04-25-2016, 07:49 AM
 
Location: West Hollywood, CA from Arlington, VA
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Not really. The only other ones are other VA cities like Richmond, Savannah, and New Orleans. Charleston has a few...perhaps Louisville does too. And that's it.
Add Columbia SC and Atlanta GA if they hadn't been burned down. It was an exaggeration, but there aren't that many cities in the north that have rowhomes outside DC, Baltimore, Philly, NYC, Boston. Saying rowhomes are a northern phenomenon is just flat out wrong. Don't know why we're having this academic debate.
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Old 04-25-2016, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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One way DC is not like Northeastern cities will likely manifest in the upcoming primaries. Donald Trump crushed it in the Boston and NYC suburbs and will most definitely crush it in the Philly/NYC New Jersey suburbs. Kasich is expected to win the vote in the DC suburbs. Rubio won Northern Virginia. Different types of voters.
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Old 04-25-2016, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Trump is winning in most of the different areas of the state with one notable exception- in the Washington suburbs he's actually back in third place at 24% with Kasich leading the way at 46% and Cruz edging him out for second place at 27%. Trump leads with both men and women, and within every age group. He trails Kasich 48/32 with moderates (Cruz gets 15%) but has double digit leads with both 'very' and 'somewhat' conservative voters.
Maryland Likely To Continue Momentum for Trump, Clinton - Public Policy Polling
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Old 04-25-2016, 10:09 AM
 
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Add Columbia SC and Atlanta GA if they hadn't been burned down. It was an exaggeration, but there aren't that many cities in the north that have rowhomes outside DC, Baltimore, Philly, NYC, Boston. Saying rowhomes are a northern phenomenon is just flat out wrong. Don't know why we're having this academic debate.
Columbia and Atlanta (outside of the "Baltimore Block") didn't have them either, Sherman's urban renewal program notwithstanding. Historic rowhouses are MUCH more of a Northern phenomenon than a Southern one, and by "Northern" I mean the Northeast and the Midwest.

And outside of the larger cities you mentioned, you also have the Jersey cities (Newark, JC, Camden, etc.), smaller cities in PA (Chester, Harrisburg, etc.), upstate NY (Albany, Buffalo), CT (Hartford, Bridgeport, New Haven, etc.), etc. The "typical" smaller city in the South just doesn't have rowhouses. Outside of a few in Charleston, they are wholly absent from the Carolinas for instance.
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Old 04-25-2016, 10:11 AM
 
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One way DC is not like Northeastern cities will likely manifest in the upcoming primaries. Donald Trump crushed it in the Boston and NYC suburbs and will most definitely crush it in the Philly/NYC New Jersey suburbs. Kasich is expected to win the vote in the DC suburbs. Rubio won Northern Virginia. Different types of voters.
That's a really, really good thing.
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