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The growth in Navy Yard is undeniably impressive. But, it also highlights in the grand scheme of things just how micro it is. A neighborhood of 14000 people in 1/2 mile isn't really all that extrodinary for an urban city. It will take a lot more navy yards if DC is ever to get to the symbolically important but arbitrary 1 million mark.
The growth in Navy Yard is undeniably impressive. But, it also highlights in the grand scheme of things just how micro it is. A neighborhood of 14000 people in 1/2 mile isn't really all that extrodinary for an urban city. It will take a lot more navy yards if DC is ever to get to the symbolically important but arbitrary 1 million mark.
For an American city yes. Globally, not at all impressive
The growth in Navy Yard is undeniably impressive. But, it also highlights in the grand scheme of things just how micro it is. A neighborhood of 14000 people in 1/2 mile isn't really all that extrodinary for an urban city. It will take a lot more navy yards if DC is ever to get to the symbolically important but arbitrary 1 million mark.
I don't think 14,000 in 1/2 square mile is impressive either. Navy Yard will reach 14,000 residents at some point next year. The fortunate thing is that there are a lot more buildings to be completed in Navy Yard.
The neighborhood should have 24,000+ residents by 2030, based on current development plans, in the same half-square mile. And, there may be more growth beyond that.
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In the grand scheme of things, DC is a midsized city of quiet, leafy rowhouses neighborhoods and streetcar suburbs. It will never rival the scale or energy of a global city like London or even Berlin to say nothing of the megacities of the Asia and the developing world. But I think what is happening in Navy Yard is fairly impressive.
I don't think 14,000 in 1/2 square mile is impressive either. Navy Yard will reach 14,000 residents at some point next year. The fortunate thing is that there are a lot more buildings to be completed in Navy Yard.
The neighborhood should have 24,000+ residents by 2030, based on current development plans, in the same half-square mile. And, there may be more growth beyond that.
I don't actually think we need a lot more Navy Yards to hit that number. All of the new downtown neighborhoods (NoMa, Navy Yard, SW Waterfront, etc) aren't even going to be the most populous neighborhoods.
It's neighborhoods like in Far Northeast and East of the River as well as a few interior already dense NW neighborhoods that will get us to 1 million through redevelopment of low density structures (EOTR), Pop-ups (NW interior neighborhoods) and redevelopment of industrial/public housing (Far Northeast).
But compared to cities like NYC, LA, London, Paris, etc, you are right that 14,000 is nothing. It's a first however for the city and for the whole metropolitan region as a whole to see a neighborhood of that size with that amount of people in it.
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In the grand scheme of things, DC is a midsized city of quiet, leafy rowhouses neighborhoods and streetcar suburbs. It will never rival the scale or energy of a global city like London or even Berlin to say nothing of the megacities of the Asia and the developing world. But I think what is happening in Navy Yard is fairly impressive.
You can thank Federal oversight (Commission of Fine Arts) and Federal land/sites being off limits to new developments for that and frankly, the NIMBYISM that exists in a few parts of the city (ahem, Ward 3) when you try to put a five story building across from an existing ten story building and residents deem it as "too tall or destroying neighborhood character" as well as in the DC government sometimes and the lack of urgency to redevelop the older parts of downtown DC into a more mixed use area.
But 1 million in a city of 61 sq miles is not a common sight in the US nor in North America. By the time we get to that number, SF will probably be the only other small sized city with that number in North America and they have less square mileage. Every other city got to that number with more space.
What neighborhood? A high dense group of 25 yo govie and think tank Nats fans? ? Thats a Private Club, not a neighborhood.
Im from a big city where neighborhood residents consist of infants to elderly; lower middle class w upper middle class sprinkled in; community services that serves all sorts, diff languages, diff cultures.
I am not interested in such a Disneyfied area. Its just like DCs selfdescribed "Chinatown" Its not Chinese if the district must subsidize Chinese people to live in one apt complex and provide a weekly shuttle to Falls Church so they can buy food.
How will this Yards complex be any better than Mosaic District or Reston Town Center,? Same thing...
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What neighborhood? A high dense group of 25 yo govie and think tank Nats fans? ? Thats a Private Club, not a neighborhood.
Im from a big city where neighborhood residents consist of infants to elderly; lower middle class w upper middle class sprinkled in; community services that serves all sorts, diff languages, diff cultures.
I am not interested in such a Disneyfied area. Its just like DCs selfdescribed "Chinatown" Its not Chinese if the district must subsidize Chinese people to live in one apt complex and provide a weekly shuttle to Falls Church so they can buy food.
How will this Yards complex be any better than Mosaic District or Reston Town Center,? Same thing...
I'm not sure what people expect. Like first of all the neighborhood is about 50% complete, it's not even a finished product by any stretch of the imagination. Secondly, new development is new development. There's nothing wrong with that IMO. Do you think New Yorkers go to Hudson Yards and marvel at the cultural authenticity of the neighborhood? NYC has more rich billionaires than here. I'm not sure what you expect. Much of urban America is being made over like this, and do you realize that the Navy Yard/Capital Riverfront was an absolute dump with strip clubs, junkies, and hookers walking around it just 20 years ago?
Reston/ Mosaic and any of those other suburban town centers are still lightweights compared to the potential of navy yard/ Capital Riverfront once it's completed, in another 10-12 years.
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