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Old 08-16-2014, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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Washington State's crime rate, according to statistics, is 21% higher than the national average; far higher than other Pacific Coast states:

Oregon: 6% higher than national average
Alaska: 2% higher than national average
California: 1% lower than national average

The only major city in Washington State with a crime rate at the national average is Bellevue, with the others soaring high above the rest of the country. Nor is the problem limited to larger cities, the smaller towns in Western Washington are overrun with meth problems and Spokane has the highest crime rate in the state.

It seems whenever reads about the crime problem in Spokane County, the general refrain is that the county simply doesn't have the resources to deal with it. And the same complaint is heard throughout the state---everywhere except King County.

What we see again is a common pattern: the law enforcement resources are funneled into the Seattle Metro Area to the expense of the rest of the state. And Seattle politicians are not overly warm to law enforcement in the first place; yet their very hostility to the police and friendliness towards the criminal element is what is driving up the costs. Take this recent story as an example:

Sheriff on West Seattle eviction: I made the decision to go in and enforce the law - The Dori Monson Show - MyNorthwest.com

Calculate the expense, man-hours, police overtime, and compensation for property damage expended in ejecting two 'Occupy Seattle' freaks from private property. And notice the Seattle City 'leadership' egging the whole thing on and restraining the Seattle Police. It's a familiar story: Seattle Police expend millions of State law-enforcement resources in not doing their jobs. We've seen the footage---everything from the post-Superbowl riots, to the May Day riots and other 'civil disturbances'---the SPD stands idly by while the 'demonstrators' spit on them, blow pot smoke in their faces, moon them, make obscene gestures at them; and destroy property while the SPD has orders not to intervene. That is, unless somebody tries to defend himself or his property.

Meanwhile, other counties' police departments are helplessly watching the scum commit crimes in their own areas---but in their case, for lack of manpower and equipment to deal with it.

As in so many other areas, Seattle domination of State policy is leading the state to ruin. At taxpayers' expense, goat-bearded hipsters can turn out in the street to protest and afterwards pontificate on their faux-progressiveness in the Hookah Lounges, knowing that the SPD won't lay a finger on them. Meanwhile the rest of the state does without.
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Old 08-16-2014, 07:22 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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One can escape the crime in major WA cities and small towns by moving to the medium sized cities like our where the crime rate is 30% lower than the national average, and be willing to pay the high mortgages and property
taxes that pay for that safety. Local law enforcement is mostly paid for by local taxes, in our case about $10 million. If your city or town has too much crime and too little law enforcement, either come up with more taxes or move.
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Old 08-16-2014, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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Hemlock:
I'm not sure where you live, but if 'East of Seattle' is the Plateau (Issaquah, Sammamish, Snoqualmie, etc) you're right: that area has the lowest crime rates in Washington and well below national average. The Bellevue area does the same, pay higher fees for better safety. But still, the State should contributing something, since public safety is supposedly their primary purpose. The property taxes and things would much lower in those areas if the State was doing its job.
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Old 08-17-2014, 04:18 AM
 
Location: Quimper Peninsula
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Hemlock:
I'm not sure where you live, but if 'East of Seattle' is the Plateau (Issaquah, Sammamish, Snoqualmie, etc) you're right: that area has the lowest crime rates in Washington and well below national average. The Bellevue area does the same, pay higher fees for better safety. But still, the State should contributing something, since public safety is supposedly their primary purpose. The property taxes and things would much lower in those areas if the State was doing its job.
What!!
You some kind of Socialist or something?
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Old 08-18-2014, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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Socialists don't typically want lower property taxes.

The point I was making is that the Liberalist's anti-law enforcement policies in Seattle are actually costing more in law enforcement tax dollars, at the expense of other communities. And these communities are suffering expenses from high crime rates.
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Old 08-18-2014, 08:23 PM
 
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Washington State's crime rate, according to statistics, is 21% higher than the national average; far higher than other Pacific Coast states:

Oregon: 6% higher than national average
Alaska: 2% higher than national average
California: 1% lower than national average

The only major city in Washington State with a crime rate at the national average is Bellevue, with the others soaring high above the rest of the country. Nor is the problem limited to larger cities, the smaller towns in Western Washington are overrun with meth problems and Spokane has the highest crime rate in the state.

It seems whenever reads about the crime problem in Spokane County, the general refrain is that the county simply doesn't have the resources to deal with it. And the same complaint is heard throughout the state---everywhere except King County.

What we see again is a common pattern: the law enforcement resources are funneled into the Seattle Metro Area to the expense of the rest of the state. And Seattle politicians are not overly warm to law enforcement in the first place; yet their very hostility to the police and friendliness towards the criminal element is what is driving up the costs. Take this recent story as an example:

Sheriff on West Seattle eviction: I made the decision to go in and enforce the law - The Dori Monson Show - MyNorthwest.com

Calculate the expense, man-hours, police overtime, and compensation for property damage expended in ejecting two 'Occupy Seattle' freaks from private property. And notice the Seattle City 'leadership' egging the whole thing on and restraining the Seattle Police. It's a familiar story: Seattle Police expend millions of State law-enforcement resources in not doing their jobs. We've seen the footage---everything from the post-Superbowl riots, to the May Day riots and other 'civil disturbances'---the SPD stands idly by while the 'demonstrators' spit on them, blow pot smoke in their faces, moon them, make obscene gestures at them; and destroy property while the SPD has orders not to intervene. That is, unless somebody tries to defend himself or his property.

Meanwhile, other counties' police departments are helplessly watching the scum commit crimes in their own areas---but in their case, for lack of manpower and equipment to deal with it.

As in so many other areas, Seattle domination of State policy is leading the state to ruin. At taxpayers' expense, goat-bearded hipsters can turn out in the street to protest and afterwards pontificate on their faux-progressiveness in the Hookah Lounges, knowing that the SPD won't lay a finger on them. Meanwhile the rest of the state does without.
What's the source of those statistics?
FBI stats show the murder rate in Washington is in the lower half of all states for 2012, 3.0 per 100,000 population. Louisiana tops the list at 10.8. Mississippi 7.4. Even California 5.0.
USAToday did a ranking of the ten most dangerous states for violent and property crime in 2013, and Washington isn't on the list.
The FBI Uniform Crime Reports for violent crime in 2012 lists Seattle at 579.6 violent crimes per 100,000 population, not even close to most other major cities: San Francisco 704.2. Stockton CA 1,548.0. Oakland 1,993.3. St Louis 1,776.5. Detroit 2,122.9.
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Old 08-18-2014, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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NCDavid:

The stats come from website.

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Old 08-18-2014, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Spokane Valley, WA
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Yea, it is much safer to live in California than small town Washington state.

Get real!!!

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In Maple Valley, WA as compared to Los Angeles, CA you are: 88.4% less likely to get robbed, 75.4% less likely to get your car stolen.

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In Maple Valley, WA as compared to San Francisco, CA you are: 92.0% less likely to get robbed, 80.5% less likely to get your car stolen.

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In Maple Valley, WA as compared to Seattle, WA you are: 86.8% less likely to get robbed, 81.8% less likely to get your car stolen.

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Old 08-18-2014, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Washington State
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It's nearly all property crime. Find me a place in WA with violent crime rates even approaching Detroit, Cleveland, Oakland CA, Compton, St. Louis, North Las Vegas, Philadelphia, Camden, New Orleans, Chicago etc. etc. etc.

I'll take a higher risk of my car or house being broken into over worrying about gang violence any day.
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Old 08-18-2014, 09:02 PM
 
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[quote=Blackhawk4440;36141949]NCDavid:


Baloney! compares city to city, doesn't have state crime rates. Also it doesn't say where its statistics come from. I'd rather believe FBI stats, and FBI stats don't back up your contentions about crime in Washington State.

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