12-13-2017, 10:00 AM
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Me and my wife, both civil engineers (me transportation, my wife water resources) with about 5 years of experience under each belt, are looking to move to Washington from FL, as some of our closest friends are there. Most of our friends are computer scientists and work in Microsoft or Amazon. We do not have a problem weatherwise anywhere in the WA. Jobs are main priority. So here I am, looking for some honest advice/suggestions
Civil engineers (transportation/water) who work in WA or moved to WA for jobs, how is the market now for us?
Are there a lot of companies to switch around if needed?
How is the pay (in general) according to your experience?
Who are the major clients (WSDOT, County etc.)?
I did some searches and see more jobs in Seattle area (as expected) and better pay but not sure how the pay-rate relate to the cost of living. What areas will you suggest that would be best to move to as a transportation engineer?
Love to hear your thoughts, suggestions!
12-13-2017, 05:15 PM
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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I have 3 friends that work out of
Vancouver WA - Federal Highway Dept. .. They do interstates, and one does exclusively National Parks
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Sweet gig. Income tax free; 10 minutes to airport! Office is adjacent to the site of a National Park property (Ft Vancouver) HUGE park, Peaceful, Good hiking / walking / quiet (except for the next door freeway and airport!!) and great 'historic' rental homes on the site.
Check USA jobs.com
Personally (as a CE & ME...) I would do international assignments for a while. If possible... We did ours while kids were ages 5-15.
Helps the resume, income, and travel budget..
PNW has pretty good jobs with Army Corp and Bonneville Power. Lots of Wind Power and Alternative energy projects (Especially interesting in Chelan County) And east (Server Farms)
PNNL is a great gig, but will need to hunt for CE role.
https://pnnl.jobs/richland/washington/usa/jobs/ (Consider the Sequim location)
12-15-2017, 11:33 PM
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I landed a job out here two years ago and moved from SLC. I’m up
In the San Juan’s, which is about 60 miles north of Seattle and 15 miles out to sea.
Most of the municipalities advertise with
www.governmentjobs.com .
Most of the mid to large sized consultants have an office in the Seattle-Bellevue area. My experience with a lot of their job announcements is that a lot of them are just for resume gathering and there may not actually be a job there.
If you have a LinkedIn profile, you can set it so recruiters can see it and you can specify areas you are looking to relocate to.
The starting salaries for State jobs are a bit low. But I believe they are set at 75% or 80% of their max salary and you get a pay bump every 6 months until you are at the max. So if you go for that, money might be tight for a couple years.
As for cost of living: it’s high in the Seattle area. King County has one of the hottest housing markets in the country and the traffic is terrible.
The bottom line is there is a lot of work, there are a lot of companies & municipalities looking for people, but there are also a lot of engineers. Be persistent and you’ll find something.
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12-16-2017, 01:03 AM
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I am an aquatic scientist and my wife does marketing for an environmental consulting firm. So we are not engineers but work with many. The market is great right now for civil and environmental engineers. There is a lot of demand in our area for stormwater and wastewater since these are major issues for Puget Sound cleanup and recovery. There also seems to be demand for traffic engineers based on the last company my wife worked.
12-17-2017, 12:37 PM
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Thanks, good to know that market is good for civil engineers up there. Do you have any links that show the pre-qualified consultants and also list of consultants with projects awarded recently? I am looking at both government agencies as well as private consulting companies to apply to.
12-18-2017, 08:00 AM
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WSDOT doesn’t prequalify A&E firms. Per State law, all A&E contract are supposed to be awarded based on qualifications, not price. So qualification is determined at the time of bid & the price is negotiated later.
12-19-2017, 08:53 PM
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I would not be afraid of Seattle King County since both you and your wife are civil engineers, but your income will go a lot further in Pierce County and there are some good engineering jobs down there. Are either of you PE's yet? Western Washington is a good place for water resources and transportation since we have a lot of water and traffic. Here is a good link for city jobs:
AWC JobNet - Search results
Also check out the following firms: Reid-Middleton (transpo, airports), Berger Abam (transpo, marine), Otak (water), KPG (local transpo), KBA (construction management), Perteet (local transpo), Parametrix (multiple including local transportation), DOWL (development, transpo), PBS (transpo, utilities incl Stormwater), David Evans (bridges), CH2M (lots), HDR (transportation), Sargent (bridges), Gray Osborne (transpo), barghausen (site development).
Most of these firms do more than what I listed. I just listed them for the work I know they have done. Many of them hire both transportation engineers and water rescource engineers and consider this a prequalified list of good firms. Good luck!
12-20-2017, 11:10 AM
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Excellent, this thread have been very useful so far for our job hunt. Locations and the list of companies are definitely helpful.
12-20-2017, 02:56 PM
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One other thing to consider is if you and your wife are eventually planning to have kids and one of you will be staying home for a long time period when the kids are little it is worth considering having the one who is planning to stay in the workforce get a public sector now job because the cost of health insurance will destroy your monthly budget. I currently work in the public sector and when I first moved here I worked for one of the private firms that I listed. I was paying 100% of the insurance premiums for my wife and two kids, it was very expensive, and the deductible was high.
12-20-2017, 03:28 PM
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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One other thing to consider is if you and your wife are eventually planning to have kids ... the insurance premiums for my wife and two kids, it was very expensive, and the deductible was high.
Good point / reminder for others in the future who will read this.
Medical in WA (and most of USA) is / will not be affordable. Working overseas assignments with kids is a BIG plus (often company will pay EDU costs, and international and even international PUBLIC schools are generally MUCH better than USA / especially elementary and middle schools.)
then... at HS age you can come back to WA for "Free FT college instead of wasting away in HS"...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Running_Start
Our kids benefited from traipsing around the world following great engineering jobs. We homeschooled until they entered Running Start (cuz we didn't stay in one country too long, and my job was 'regional sourcing' so we traveled nearly everyday.) Many eng co-workers used international schools to great benefit for their kids (especially the international public schools. Kids we know brought up that way secured excellent international jobs.
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Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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