Loren Culp for Governor (Seattle: condo, to buy, living in)

[Flightoficarus87]

Culp still refuses to concede, despite being behind by well over 500K votes...

https://komonews.com/news/elections/...ies-in-results

I'll have to agree with MaikeerinWA - If the GOP wants to win the governor's seat in WA, it's not gonna happen with candidates like Culp or Eyman. I think if someone like McKenna was running this time around, Inslee might have lost.

[grega94]

If the GOP wants to succeed in this state they will need run on a libertarian platform and concede/ignore on most of the social issues, adopt a live let live policy, focus on the economics as well as crime and homelessness, and for good measure play the identity politics game and put forward a minority candidate.

[rkcarguy]

It ultimately doesn't matter. It only takes a handful of counties that have the majority of the population to decide the elections (will vote Democrat always) for the rest of the state. Culp is posturing being 500k down, but the amount of votes he did capture shows that its not just a handful of people that are tired of much of the democrat games.

[grega94]

Originally Posted by rkcarguy

It ultimately doesn't matter. It only takes a handful of counties that have the majority of the population to decide the elections (will vote Democrat always) for the rest of the state. Culp is posturing being 500k down, but the amount of votes he did capture shows that its not just a handful of people that are tired of much of the democrat games.

I don't think the GOP has any chance of winning King County with the current political climate, but I think they can make serious inroads in Pierce, Clark and Snohomish counties since they were pretty close this year.

If Culp was able to preform with an increase of 8% in each county on average he would've won, this is how that scenario would play out

GOP wins scenario

County | Dem Votes | % | GOP Votes | % | Difference
King | 785,276 | 66.41% | 397,129 | 33.59% | +388,151
Snohomish | 207,567 | 48.40% | 221,270 | 51.60% | -13,703
Pierce | 198,972 | 43.92% | 254,074 | 56.08% | -55,101
Clark | 115,636 | 42.97% | 153,480 | 57.03% | -37,845
Spokane | 106,946 | 36.96% | 182,417 | 63.04% | -75,471
Current Dem Counties | 1,560,420 | 54.50%| 1,302,842 | 45.50% | +257,578
Current GOP Counties | 373,235 | 34.56% | 706,580 | 65.44% | -333,345
Washington | 1,933,655 | 49.04% | 2,009,422 | 50.96% | -75,767

2020 Governors Race Results

County | Dem Votes | % | GOP Votes | % | Difference
King | 879,872 | 74.41% | 302,536 | 25.59% | +577,336
Snohomish | 241.874 | 56.40% | 186,963 | 43.60% | +54,911
Pierce | 235,216 | 56.40% | 186,963 | 43.60% | +17,386
Clark | 137,165 | 50.97% | 131,951 | 49.03% | +5,214
Spokane | 130,095 | 44.96% | 159,268 | 55.04% | -29,173
Dem Counties | 1,789,481 | 62.50% | 1,073,781 | 37.50% | +715,700
GOP Counties | 459,620 | 42.56% | 620,195 | 57.44% | -160,575
Washington | 2,249,101 | 57.04% | 1,693,976 | 42.96% | 555,125

So to reiterate, the GOP not only needs to win over more suburban voters in blue counties, particularly in Pierce, Snohomish and Clark counties, but they also need to attract more voters in their own counties , since on average they were only winning at 57%, they need +65% in their own counties, and for good measure they should be aiming for +70%.

And in order to do this the GOP needs to adopt a more libertarian platform, but with the huge PR hit with Trump, it might make more sense for the conservative politicians to abandon the GOP altogether in this state and move into the libertarian party and start fresh.

[Disgustedman]

Originally Posted by StealthRabbit

The (uninformed) vote will go to the highest spender / best Hollywood type ads, highest name recognition.

Your average USA voter likely spends ZERO time investigating candidates and policies / experience / voting history if an incumbent.

Too Bad.

Some years ago. One candidate had little money for advertising. So, 5 days before the election he went out with signs and stuck them on highways and main arterials.

He won 62% of the vote. Your claim is correct.....

[Transmition]

Originally Posted by rkcarguy

It ultimately doesn't matter. It only takes a handful of counties that have the majority of the population to decide the elections (will vote Democrat always) for the rest of the state.

So democracy is working. But counties don't matter in this, it's cumulative across the whole state, so you have to have policies that work for both urbanites and rural if you want to win as a Republican. It's harder to do, but not impossible.

Originally Posted by rkcarguy

Culp is posturing being 500k down, but the amount of votes he did capture shows that its not just a handful of people that are tired of much of the democrat games.

There is always a solid 35% core on both sides who will vote for their favorite party even if the actual candidate eats babies and puppies, or is a egocentric corrupt fascist. It's only when enough of the middle ground gets persuaded that people should pay attention. Culp is at less than 43%

[dav51lin]

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[WestGuest]

Originally Posted by rkcarguy

It ultimately doesn't matter. It only takes a handful of counties that have the majority of the population to decide the elections (will vote Democrat always) for the rest of the state. Culp is posturing being 500k down, but the amount of votes he did capture shows that its not just a handful of people that are tired of much of the democrat games.

Why is it that Trump supporters are so ignorant? If you took a basic government, you would know that 55% and over is considered a LANDSLIDE. Look at what Inslee recieved and figure out if it was a bigger number - than 55%. In SW Washington Inslee didn't bother to campaign. Many including myself thought that no one should get a third term.



My guess is you think Trump got cheated out of his election but let's stick to the main point - CULP got his ass kicked!

[rkcarguy]

Originally Posted by WestGuest

Why is it that Trump supporters are so ignorant? If you took a basic government, you would know that 55% and over is considered a LANDSLIDE. Look at what Inslee recieved and figure out if it was a bigger number - than 55%. In SW Washington Inslee didn't bother to campaign. Many including myself thought that no one should get a third term.

My guess is you think Trump got cheated out of his election but let's stick to the main point - CULP got his ass kicked!

I'm looking at it in a different way. I see about 1/4 of the state that got what they wanted for a candidate, and the rest of the state didn't. I have been on both sides, and I have voted for Red and Blue candidates on the same ticket based on the policy they propose.
Regarding Trump, he's an awful man who happened to have some of the policy many felt we needed. His personality drove many away, and I knew it was going to be a close election. I was up really late watching the results and agree that there is adequate inconsistency in the numbers and that several states need a recount. Whatever the results are, will be what they will be. We've been here before with Bush/Gore.

[WestGuest]

[quote=rkcarguy;I'm looking at it in a different way. I see about 1/4 of the state that got what they wanted for a candidate, and the rest of the state didn't.."


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You got me wrong. When I told you your last post was ignorant, I did not mean it as a challenge to come up with something even more ignorant.


Let me take you back to your High School Civics Class. The United Stats Supreme Court in the 1960's wrote Baker v Carr. You were probably so busy posting something somewhere that you missed it. Perhaps you reside in one of those rural areas, where the news hasn't hit yet.


Baker made "ONE PERSON ONE VOTE" the law of the land-it wasn't about liberal or conservatives or Red Or Blue- just about fairness.



One [B]person[/b] means exactly what it says- it does not mean one cow, one goat or even ONE ACRE of land.


So let's say I was wealthy enough to buy every piece of Washington which did not have a house or person. Perhaps I would own 3 /4 of the state. Using your logic - I should have 3/4 all the votes- hey we could save money spent on elections. I would pick who I wanted for office and just hand in my list.
Thankfully it doesnt work that way. A person living in a condo in Seattle has the same right to vote, as the guy who owns 500,000 acres. There is a term for that DEMOCRACY.


Please try to educate yourself . Go and GOOGLE Baker v Carr and read it- it has a fascinating discussion. If not go to Wiki or somewhere else. Then tell me once in for all - you understand the concept.