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Old 05-20-2013, 05:06 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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You better believe it. NYC's AVERAGE Julys are hotter than our RECORD avg Jan high/lows I also checked Washington DC's data for the same months and well I lost a decade of my lifespan. 29C lows, 38-40C highs multiple days in a row? 23-34C averages? Goddamn hell. As far as I know Melbourne has never recorded an average monthly low over 20C and the record monthly average high is about 30C.

I think I'd prefer that and get snowy winters rather than our anemic summers and windswept, wet cloudy winters that all in all are still chilly when you factor in our famous coastal windchill. On the other hand, not having palm trees is a major liability.
Would you prefer London's summers (which is like Melbourne's but cloudier and no extreme heatwaves) to get some snow in the winter?
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Old 05-20-2013, 05:16 AM
 
Location: York
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That 2010 July in NYC is probably hotter than any European cities average July, including possibly Sevilla!

Obviously it's well above average, but that's an impressively hot month, couple the heat with the humidity and there must have been some incredibly expensive utility bills that month!
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Old 05-20-2013, 05:26 AM
 
Location: Melbourne Australia
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Would you prefer London's summers (which is like Melbourne's but cloudier and no extreme heatwaves) to get some snow in the winter?
Hell no. If it's going to snow in winter, summers should be 30/20C bare minimum. Personally I don't hate snow, infact when I went to Hungary in Jan 2012, I was pissed off that there was no snow. But then again, I live in a climate where snow doesn't exist so if I lived in a place where winters are snowy, I perhaps wouldn't care for it. I think that novelty factor is playing a part here
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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Those NYC Julys, albeit quite warmer than average, look fantastic. I can see myself taking advantage of the warm nights, chillin' at the balcony of my $30 million penthouse, staring at the city lights and listening to distant rumbles of thunder.
I'm envisioning a cramped apartment without A/C.
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Old 05-20-2013, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Paris
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Your posts make too much sense. Stop being realistic!


...but yeah, in those conditions, I would be utterly miserable. I can already see myself drowning in sweat trying to sleep on this hot, muggy night (fantastic weather for spending the night outdoors though).
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Old 05-20-2013, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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That 2010 July in NYC is probably hotter than any European cities average July, including possibly Sevilla!

Obviously it's well above average, but that's an impressively hot month, couple the heat with the humidity and there must have been some incredibly expensive utility bills that month!

You got that right. The std deviation of monthly mean temps in our region in July is around 2F. July 2010 where I live had a monthly mean temp 4F above the mean, so around two std deviations off the mean. But the warmest in the record is July 2011, which had a monthly mean around 4.8F higher than the average.

To put some of this into perspective, shown below is our coolest July in the record (1962) going back to 1948.

Our coolest July had a montly mean temp of 72, which at the time was 4.5F below the montly mean of 1961-1990.

Has London ever had a montly mean temp of 72F. I'm curious about that, but I know your std deviation is lower than ours (though not sure about summer).






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Old 05-20-2013, 08:01 AM
 
Location: York
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I think July 2006 was around 72F

History | Weather Underground

That link says 70F but I'm sure parts of London were warmer than that
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Old 05-20-2013, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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No doubt parts of central London had a mean of 72F or higher in July 2006, Heathrow Airport had a mean of 71F that month.

In fact, London Weather Centre had a mean of 72.3F in July 2006, but due to its unorthodox rooftop location, is not usually included.
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Old 05-20-2013, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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No doubt parts of central London had a mean of 72F or higher in July 2006, Heathrow Airport had a mean of 71F that month.

In fact, London Weather Centre had a mean of 72.3F in July 2006, but due to its unorthodox rooftop location, is not usually included.

Did people there think that month was very hot? I wonder what the people of the Philly area thought of that July in 1962.

Interesting to me is how a place like Charleston, SC has an average July temp of 82.4F, which is exactly the mean of our warmest July ever. It really is pretty hot and humid down there in summer. My memory of July 2011 is one being sweat soaked each morning on the way to work.
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Old 05-20-2013, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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Just looked at ogimet.net and London Heathrow, accordng to that site, had a mean of 71.6F in July 2006, 71.7F if you use the 9am-9pm time that the Met Office use. Mean max 28.4C, mean min 16.3C.

By our standards? Yes, it was considered very hot. A week of max temps above 30C is ridiculous.
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