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Sunshine is 2147 hours, coldest month is 6.6C. Official Niwa stats.
There is no challenge to growing CIDP's in Christchurch, or Motueka, which has even colder minimums than Christchurch. There are other palms that grow here happily, that won't grow happily in the UK.
It's about 8C here at the moment, with sunny skies-can already feel the warmth of the sun, even at the low angle. By about 9:00am it will be pleasant enough to sit in the sun with my coffee and shorts/sleeves. -if you have trouble relating to that, then I think that is indicative of the differences between the respective climates, in a practical sense.
it says 7c and drizzle in the Church pmsl -thats the real story there lol .
your climate is a little better than the vast majority of that island - and 9am short sleeves >? well OK , i could say the same to you here when on odd days it is around 10c and sunny in Feb/Mar (not sure about 9am though ) - there is a small area of my garden that acts as a sun trap - but thats not the climate at work -that's the garden geography - sheltered position lol
i picked up on this in SW England when it was around that - it did feel warmish in the sun in the right sheltered spot - maybe reflection form the patio /buildings etc - thats prob what youre alluding to but you wouldn't feel that in an exposed field eg
There are other palms that grow in Christchurch that will not grow anywhere in the UK, even the Scilly Isles. Syagrus romanzoffiana, the Queen palm is one example...
it says 7c and drizzle in the Church pmsl -thats the real story there lol .
your climate is a little better than the vast majority of that island - and 9am short sleeves >? well OK , i could say the same to you here when on odd days it is around 10c and sunny in Feb/Mar (not sure about 9am though ) - there is a small area of my garden that acts as a sun trap - but thats not the climate at work -that's the garden geography - sheltered position lol
i picked up on this in SW England when it was around that - it did feel warmish in the sun in the right sheltered spot - maybe reflection form the patio /buildings etc - thats prob what youre alluding to but you wouldn't feel that in an exposed field eg
That's the difference in a nutshell. Sun here feels warm during winter days everywhere- no exceptions. That's why the kids are just heading the door now, in shorts, and with two of them in short sleeves.
7C and drizzle in Christchurch -sure, I can relate to that, happens here as well. Less likely to happen here though, than where you are.
It just isn't warm enough, they need higher mean temperatures to put on growth. In the milder parts of the UK they survive the winter, but it takes so long for them to be "kicked" back into growth that by the time they start it cools down again. I tried growing several over the years, as have many others, they are just not suited to the UK climate unfortunately...
That's the difference in a nutshell. Sun here feels warm during winter days everywhere- no exceptions. That's why the kids are just heading the door now, in shorts, and with two of them in short sleeves.
7C and drizzle in Christchurch -sure, I can relate to that, happens here as well. Less likely to happen here though, than where you are.
Motueka now says 7c and sunny ? i don't get how 7c and sunny feels properly warm in winter - what if it starts raining ? will the kids stay in shorts and shirt sleeves ?
Motueka now says 7c and sunny ? i don't get how 7c and sunny feels properly warm in winter - what if it starts raining ? will the kids stay in shorts and shirt sleeves ?
7c and sunny feels warm enough to me! Best believe ill be out in shorts and enjoying the birds and clear skies!
It just isn't warm enough, they need higher mean temperatures to put on growth. In the milder parts of the UK they survive the winter, but it takes so long for them to be "kicked" back into growth that by the time they start it cools down again. I tried growing several over the years, as have many others, they are just not suited to the UK climate unfortunately...
yet they grow in the Church which has the same mean temps as Portsmouth (acc to wiki) ?
7c and sunny feels warm enough to me! Best believe ill be out in shorts and enjoying the birds and clear skies!
well OK - what i'll do is wait for winter and when there is a day of 7- 10c and sunny (Nov/Dec/Jan) i will test the water and report .
I could be out of line with all this and prove myself wrong - it's just that i don't recall ever wanting to don a t shirt and shorts on such a day lol - normally jeans and a light top
Motueka now says 7c and sunny ? i don't get how 7c and sunny feels properly warm in winter - what if it starts raining ? will the kids stay in shorts and shirt sleeves ?
It feels like 7C, but the sensation of the sun is warm even now.
It's hard to translate what climates are like in a real sense, beyond stats. That's why I find photos so interesting -because they say things about the climate, that stats might not fully convey. The kids will be fine - if it's northerly rain, the effect will be one of increased humidity, with no real drop in temperatures -what people call balminess. If it's a cold southerly rain, it will be brief, but very chilling -they have their school jersey in the their bag - never leave home without something warmer to wear.
It feels like 7C, but the sensation of the sun is warm even now.
It's hard to translate what climates are like in a real sense, beyond stats. That's why I find photos so interesting -because they say things about the climate, that stats might not fully convey. The kids will be fine - if it's northerly rain, the effect will be one of increased humidity, with no real drop in temperatures -what people call balminess. If it's a cold southerly rain, it will be brief, but very chilling -they have their school jersey in the their bag - never leave home without something warmer to wear.
in winter time the sun is pretty low - so even if it felt warm at 7c you will find yourself walking in the shade of buidings / trees etc more often than not ,esp in city centres - then it will really feel cold .
In winter almost half the entire garden is buried by shade from various fencing and neighbouring houses - and half the street too is shady -in town the thoroughfare will be in complete shade - there is no way i would go out in shorts in Jan ,even if it felt warm in the sun lol .
you will have to take some pics if you get the chance and put on here Joe - more out of interest etc - and i'll do the same on a mild sunny day (winter )
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