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Old 03-15-2015, 03:47 AM
 
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I'm not sure if any place exists which is hotter than Furnace Creek in July.

The closest I could find is Kuwait City in July and August.

However, there are many places that have individual months (not necessarily representative of the average) where the average high for that particular month exceeds 46.9C.

For example, in July 2012 Basrah had an average high of 48C (119F): Weather History for Basrah, Iraq | Weather Underground. (there were a couple of erroneous measurements there, especially that 18C reading, but for the most part the highs appear to be accurate)

Generally the average high there is only 45-46C.
Depending on the temperature change in the last 50 years in the Dallol area, it could now have an average high higher than 46.9C.

And that's a good find
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Old 03-15-2015, 03:48 AM
 
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Great list
You are missing Djibouti (33.4°C average high)
I'll add it on
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Old 03-15-2015, 05:10 AM
 
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Does anyone know a place with an average high that is greater than 46.9C (116.4F) in any month?
I don't think so. The highest maximum average high must be in the 46 °C - 47 °C range. I recently found a temperature graph which shows an average high over 47 °C in July in a remote desert location in south central Algeria called Bou Bernous but I'm waiting for the summertime to check the real highs on a reliable weather forecast site. Bou Bernous is said to have the highest monthly average high throughout entire Africa.

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Originally Posted by Shalop View Post
I'm not sure if any place exists which is hotter than Furnace Creek in July.

The closest I could find is Kuwait City in July and August.

However, there are many places that have individual months (not necessarily representative of the average) where the average high for that particular month exceeds 46.9C.

For example, in July 2012 Basrah had an average high of 48C (119F): Weather History for Basrah, Iraq | Weather Underground. (there were a couple of erroneous measurements there, especially that 18C reading, but for the most part the highs appear to be accurate)

Generally the average high there is only 45-46C.
I've just checked the temperature data in July 2014 for Timimoun as well as for Adrar, Algeria and Wunderground is indicating an average high of 47 °C for both these locations.
Weather History for Adrar, Algeria | Weather Underground
Weather History for Timimoun, Algeria | Weather Underground

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Old 03-15-2015, 05:17 AM
 
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I don't think so. The highest maximum average high must be in the 46 °C - 47 °C range. I recently found a temperature graph which shows an average high over 47 °C in July in a remote desert location in south central Algeria called Bou Bernous but I wait for the summertime to check the real highs on a reliable weather forecast site. Bou Bernous is said to have the highest monthly average high throughout entire Africa.
Yeah, I think it's best to wait until summer. Going by it's location, I don't think it will be that high I think the hottest part of Algeria is near the border with Libya and Niger.

More weather stations in the Sahara will be really good
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Old 03-15-2015, 05:26 AM
 
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Yeah, I think it's best to wait until summer. Going by it's location, I don't think it will be that high I think the hottest part of Algeria is near the border with Libya and Niger.

More weather stations in the Sahara will be really good
Yeah, you're right!
I have also many doubts about this data : the average high for June even reaches 44 °C while the average high for August remain above 45 °C according to the graph document. Plus, the town is located near Tindouf, where the average high only reaches 43 °C - 45 °C in July. It seems the hottest places in the Sahara are definitely very hard to determine

More weather stations in that area of the world would be welcoming

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Old 03-28-2015, 05:36 AM
 
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Deserts are getting hot nowadays. We aren't in April yet but daytime temperatures are already very high in some of the hottest places on Earth. Today, Death Valley has a maximum temperature of 36 °C (96.8 °F) and Dallol has a maximum temperature of 43 °C (109.4 °F). Tomorrow, Death Valley is going to have a maximum temperature of 36 °C (96.8 °F) like today but Dallol will heat up as the spot is going to have a high of 45 °C (113 °F). On Monday, Death Valley shoud experience a high of 37 °C (98.6 °F) and Dallol should keep an high of 45 °C (113 °F).

Screenshoots of some weather forecasts :

Kuwait City :




Adrar, Algeria :




In Salah, Algeria :




Baghdad, Iraq :




Death Valley, California




Dallol, Ethiopia

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Old 03-29-2015, 05:35 AM
 
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Yeah, I think it's best to wait until summer. Going by it's location, I don't think it will be that high I think the hottest part of Algeria is near the border with Libya and Niger.

More weather stations in the Sahara will be really good

I think the elevation in southern/soutestern Algeria (>400 m.asl) is too high to have the hottest summer temps in Africa. I'd guess the hottest parts in Africa in summer are in south/southwestern Algeria and northern Mali where the elevation is below 200 m.asl which can have average summer maximum temps around 47C.

Also worth mentioning; The land area around 150 km southwest of the village In Salah in central Algeria has an elevation 150-200 meters below the village, which can also be a hot-spot in Sahara. If the wiki stats are right, which they rarely are for remote african places, In Salah has an average high of 46.4C in July, which would make the land area 150+ meters below the village 1-2C warmer.

Also, could some parts of the Lut desert in Iran have average summer high temps above 47C? What do you think?
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Old 03-29-2015, 08:33 AM
 
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LOL, In-Salah data from wiki is wrong!! What a childish attitude the one of changing the average highs of the summer months in order to make it look hotter...

Compare the wiki stats with the WMO normals and you see how the 'unimportant figures' are the same and the high temps are changed.

In Salah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

ftp://ftp.atdd.noaa.gov/pub/GCOS/WMO...I/AL/60630.TXT

(The source that wiki provides -that Arab Meteorology Book- gets its stats from the WMO normals.)
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Old 03-29-2015, 10:08 AM
 
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Nicely observed. I couldn't agree with you more. Why can't just people stick to the statistical facts instead of fabricating data. Anyway, as mentioned in my previous post, wiki stats are rarely right, especially for remote african places. I still think some isolated low-land parts in the Sahara might have a 47C+ average high for the hottest month, but the lack of weather stations makes it an assumption or guessing.
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Old 03-29-2015, 10:17 AM
 
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LOL, In-Salah data from wiki is wrong!! What a childish attitude the one of changing the average highs of the summer months in order to make it look hotter...

Compare the wiki stats with the WMO normals and you see how the 'unimportant figures' are the same and the high temps are changed.

In Salah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

ftp://ftp.atdd.noaa.gov/pub/GCOS/WMO...I/AL/60630.TXT

(The source that wiki provides -that Arab Meteorology Book- gets its stats from the WMO normals.)
I think I will calculate the real averages for the remote locations having dubious temperatures data because the provided data is totally unreliable. I will rely on the forecasts and weather history to etablish the reality, if we can really trust them. I just know the real averages highs for Adrar, Algeria are around 46° - 47° in July and around 45° - 46° in August from the weather history (Wundeground). In Salah is quite close to Adrar, so the spot might roughly have the same averages but I have honestly no proof of that.

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